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[The Observer]

Inq and the rest,

I thought of this about a month ago.
Sounds like the language you are talkin Inq.

March 22, 2010, 02:52:48 PM »

Hello all,

Although I do believe Resonance is a Key Factor in trying to lead out energy from a transformer,
I figured out a way that the primary of a transformer would not be aware of the secondary.
             
                             D
------- %---------|<1-----
             %                          |
L-->    %                          $  <---R                              Rise time of Primary
             %                         $                                                ___|__                          _____
             %                          |                                               |           |                          |          |
-------- %------------------                                   ________|           |_____________|          |
                                                                                                                       |
                                                                                                         Decay time of RL Secondary

Here's how it works.  1. Pulse in  Primary at rise time for circuit.
                                  2. No current flows in Secondary as diode is blocking at this time.
                                  3. When Primary is off... Back pulse from Collapsing Core then allowed through Secondary R.

Thus a Transformer who's Primary is not aware of the load on the Secondary !

Am I the first person to figure this out?
                                                         
The Observer

Later I noticed  Stan Meyer was talking about his VIC? circuit in which he said the Collapsing Magnetic Field did the work.
So I'm probably not the first to think of this.  ;o)~

I am, however, an advocate of FerroMagnetic Materials Being OU.
The very fact that a Ferro can amplify the field of coil by 20,000 times (sh_T make it a million) is enough to make a person think !

               Short example to get you thinking...
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            A common Speaker is actually an OU device.

             - The speaker works because it sets up a dynamic Electromagnetic System.
             - It takes energy to set up this system.
             - When you replace the Magnet with Coil... and the take away the Ferro inside the coil connected to the amp,
                you then find out the energy needed to set up the system --- True Conservation or Energy.
            - The Magnet and Ferro inside the coil add energy to the system by virtue of unpaired spinning electrons they contain.

                In short. It takes WAY more energy to run a speaker       
                                                                                         if you take away Ferromagnetic Materials (magnet and iron from inside coil).

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I say... the collapsing field of a high Magnetic Permeability core (make it a million) inside a coil is highly likely to give OU.

            The energy that gives the OU is called Anisotropic Energy...
                                                                                                 it is the Quantum Energy that returns Dipoles to random Positions.
                                                                                                 (Random Domains actually)

Posted is a diagram explaining the concept of  Magnetic Permeability.

The Observer

[mscoffman]

Hi Groundloop and Gyulasun thanks for help. Groundloop that circuit worked fine thanks. How can I hook multicoil with it?;the same as bedini coils in his circuit?.
Thanks again.

@guruji

I noticed that Groundloop's is using bifilar wound coil, but with the same
gauge wire for both windings and the same number of turns. This is not
optimal for the Bedini while it is nearly optimal for the Inquoates stand
alone coil.

Why? Bedini is using an signal inverting transistor amplifier which uses
feedback from the drive winding to the sensor winding to *suppress*
self oscillation. So the sensor ends up "hearing" only the approaching
permanent magnet pole. The problem is in a bipolar transistor, the power
to the base is wasted in the inverting amplifier design. So they drive
the base "less hard" which means more resistance and/or less turns
in the sensor coil. Inquoates design on the other hand uses what is
called an emitter coupled non-inverting amplifier. Non-inverting amps
easily self oscillate. Guess what, the base current ends up flowing
through emitter along with the drive current so the base power is
not totally wasted in the emitter coupled design. Since it is not
wasted an equal gauge wire in the sense and drive windings make
sense.

So the difference in the one transistor inverting and non-inverting
amp ends up creating a difference in optimal winding the composite
coil.

:MarkSCoffman

[guruji]

@guruji

I noticed that Groundloop's is using bifilar wound A, but with the same
gauge wire for both windings and the same number of turns. This is not
optimal for the Bedini while it is nearly optimal for the Inquoates stand
alone coil.

Why? Bedini is using an signal inverting A A which uses
feedback from the drive winding to the sensor winding to *suppress*
self oscillation. So the sensor ends up "hearing" only the approaching
permanent magnet pole. The problem is in a bipolar A, the power
to the base is wasted in the inverting amplifier design. So they drive
the base "less hard" which means more resistance and/or less turns
in the sensor coil. Inquoates design on the other hand uses what is
called an emitter coupled non-inverting amplifier. Non-inverting amps
easily self oscillate. Guess what, the base current ends up flowing
through emitter along with the drive current so the base power is
not totally wasted in the emitter coupled design. Since it is not
wasted an equal gauge wire in the sense and drive windings make
sense.

So the difference in the one transistor inverting and non-inverting
amp ends up creating a difference in optimal winding the composite
coil.

:MarkSCoffman

Hi Markscoffman I am using different gauge to my bifilar and oscillation worked.
Groundloop this multi coil is good? sorry for my rough sketch I don't have component software.
Thanks

[Groundloop]

@guruji,

I have never tried it but it should work.

The capacitor value may need to be larger because of the higher
base current pulse needed when using several transistors. How
many coils and transistors do you plan to use?

I suggest that you experiment with different capacitor values until you
are happy with the current going through the coils.

Groundloop.

[guruji]

@guruji,

I have never tried it but it should work.

The capacitor value may need to be larger because of the A
base current pulse needed when using several transistors. How
many coils and transistors do you plan to use?

Groundloop.

Hi Groundloop for now I will be using another coil and transistor. So what capacitor you propose?
Thanks