Mehess Motor

[tropes]

Well Humbugger, you certainly have given us some "food for thought" laced with wake-up pills.
Tropes

[billmehess]

First let me apologize for the KMA comment that was done in the heat of the moment. I have been reading this site for quite a while I to have been dejected by the large amount of bad science that I have seen. The latest being the Steorn
fiasco.
The whole idea of this site is to present a form so that new ideas can be proposed. Concepts that were once thought
to be unworkable or even heresy are accept facts today.
I remember once in this thread some time back where a person stated that if they could get free energy they would not mind having to rewind the system periodically manually. Again this device is not ou. But because of that does it not have any value?
Again I can keep a LED running indifinitly and what is required is a 10-15 second manual action once every 8 days.
I see this if scaled up a power source that is not area specific. That's it no more or no less.
Ideas stand and fall on their own merit , in this group we keep proposing new concepts and new roads to travel.
This allows off shoots of ideas to come into play and maybe develop into something totally different from our original concept.
The Wright Brothers first flight was 120', hardly breath taking and at the time considered almost worthless. Thomas Edison went throught thousands of filaments before finding the one that would work the list could go on and on.
I will post the site by tomorrow morning, I don't like utube because on a site I can post some hard data.
I don't agree with Humbugger on most on what he said but he has all the right in the world to say it.
Lets don't keep bantering about on this its counterproductive and serves no purpose.

[tinu]

Humbugger, these are some of the best posts I've ever read on this forum.

Count me for it too.
But Bill was hit repeatedly. I did it first (check my posts on pages 20-21) and I did it hard.
Now it?s happening again. 
I guess it was just bad luck.

Bill, you can?t just remove the dark.
For that to happen, light has to be brought in.
From my point of view, your experiments are welcome as long as you do not advertise a successful device while it is actually far, far from that.

Tinu
?In the absence of light, dark prevails?

[Humbugger]

My Theory of OU and Free Energy:

There ain't none to be had...

Believe me...I want to get all manic and excited one more last time in my life and throw myself fully into some insane project I just know will save the world and make me incredibly rich and famous. 

I just can't bring myself to believe that perpetual motion or free energy or overunity or zeropoint energy is going to pan out as any kind of useful reality.  Sorry!

I think it's all one huge group delusion fueled further by a multi-faceted yet disorganized scam and a quackery-laced fraud arena that detracts greatly from the hard work and creative energy it will take to actually solve the world's real problems.  I would really appreciate being proven wrong.  But it ain't happened yet!

HELP!  I'm a cynical old pragmatist and I can't get up!

[Humbugger]

Bill...I accept your apology.  I apologize for hurting your feelings.  However, as a practical matter of fact, researchers, scientist and engineers must avoid falling blindly in love with their ideas or they are doomed to oblivion.  Thus, it is recommended for good health and rapid progress that one be forced to eat crow immediately upon making a foolish statement. 

And learn to laugh it off...don't react defensively.  This is not an attack.  Your oscilloscope isn't insulting you when it says 32V 128MHz Sine wave just because you expected or hoped for 74V 4GHz square waves!  It's just being frank and honest!

Quote:  "I remember once in this thread some time back where a person stated that if they could get free energy they would not mind having to rewind the system periodically manually".  Don't you see how absolutely silly that statement is?  It's no different than me saying "I really like to eat a free lunch and I don't mind paying for it".

Quote:  "Again this device is not ou. But because of that does it not have any value?"  No, the reason it has no value is that there are far simpler, easier, minimal-element, reliable, existing, cheap ways of accomplishing the exact same results.  That's what makes it not worth pursuing further.  It only gets worse if you scale it up.

I guess I have an unfair advantage here because I have spent the last 40 years evaluating my own ideas on how a given goal should be accomplished using technology.  It is instantly obvious to me that your method has way more elements and is far more complicated than it needs to be to maintain a very dimly lit LED for eight days with only 15 seconds of hand-cranking effort or whatever.  Therefore, I reject it as a practical, sellable, useful approach to the problem as defined. 

That doesn't mean you couldn't sell it!  I see you have quite a few interested folks right here.  It just wouldn't be an approach I personally would consider for more than 12 nanoseconds.  What I'm curious to see is how you "prove" it works for eight days in a few minutes of video!

Quote "I don't agree with Humbugger on most on what he said".  I'm curious about any assertion I have made being incorrect, controversial or plain false.  Can you be specific about what you disagree with me on?  Other than matters of pure speculative opinion I may have expressed (obviously, you don't agree yet that your approach is silly...I understand that), is there any disagreement on my factual purport?

Quote "Lets don't keep bantering about on this its counterproductive and serves no purpose"  My comments are meant to be fairly general and apply to virtually every device I've read about on this entire forum and the whole of the web.  If that's what you are referring to when you say "this", then I would have to say that my "banter" is intended to be productive of reason and scientific critical thinking in general and definitely serves that important purpose. 

If you don't want to talk to me any more, I understand completely.  I wish you good luck and God speed in your experiments and endeavors!