Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2

[madmaxx]

Thank you so much for the suggestions. I agree that the stator needs to move out to reduce the interaction. Also the rotor needs to increase in size to meet the stator much closer. It's just a mock up made of a CDROM spindle and PVC pipe. If we can get one working with this junk then all would benifit.
I need to earn a living now. So when I get time to make the revisions I'll repost a photo. Perhaps my failures will help others.

[madmaxx]

madmaxx,

But problem is to put down the flying magnet, becouse 3 forces repulse it - one from rotor, two from nearby stator magnet. It seem that sum of these 3 forces are same which rotate rotor to gap. I'm afraid that metal arm above rollers in torbay's  demonstration model can't overcome these repulse forces.

Here's a mockup. But there's not enough torque to lift anything. It will turn if you lift ach stator arm.

Sugestions? I know it doesn't have rollers, but even if it did there's not enough torque.

Exactly! Putting down the the stator is problem. If you were to add force to push it down then it would require more force to lift. The sheilding was to reduce interaction of the stator. Didn't seem to help at all. By moving out this reduces the interaction but makes a larger machine.

[2tiger]

Hello all
Yesterday I read the script of the patent from Torbay.
Did you ever read a translation of it? Well - I will try to translate you some important thing that might be useful for you.

Page No. 1    Description of the invention
...movimiento continuo   ...    aprovechando la propiedad de rechazo de polos iguales y la desviacion de lineas de fuerza magnetica mediante cortes en los imanes.

...continuely movement  ...  by using the repulsion of equal poles AND by deflection of magnetic field lines. The deflection is created by the cutoffs of the magnets.


Page No. 5
Forma the llevarlo a cabo ----- How to realize or how to setup

.... Los angulos de cortes (alfa) en los imanes de los modulos elevantes podran ser variados segun convenga para controlar aceleracion fricction magnetica y velocidad. A saber que a medida que aumentamos (alfa) la friccion magnetica sera mayor la acelaracion inicial sera mayor y la velocidad constante sera menor, mientras que si alfa disminuye la aceleracion inicial sera menor y la velocidad constante sera mayor.
Los angulos de corte (beta) y ubicacion de estos en los imanes del brazo rotor permitira controlar sentido de giro. ....


...The angles (alpha) of the cutoffs of the magnets in the stator modules can be setup for your application, controlling acelaration, magnetic friction and speed.
By increasing (alpha) the magnetic friction and the aceleration will increase and the final speed will decrease. On the other side if we decrease (alpha), the aceleration and the final speed will increase.
( And now a very important part!!!)
The angles (beta) of the cutoffs and the position of them in the rotormagnet will allow you to change the turn direccion.   ...

What I read of this, is that the angle (alpha) of the cutoffs of the statormagnets is essetial for this kind of motor. But the angle (beta) makes no sense for me as long as they where equal on both sides.

My englisch is not very well and it takes one and a half hour to translate this, so its very difficult for me.
If you want me to translate more of the patent it would be easier for me to translate it to german and send it to Stefan hoping that he can translate it to english, perhaps compressing the sense oft it.

By the way:  The piece that appears in the cut-away drawing called "sist. de descenso controlado"  means "system for controlled pushdown"

I hope this are usefull informations for U.

By
2Tiger

[slucas]

I'm excited about this thread. I was wondering if you have seen the Hummingbird motor and the Sundance generator?  Here's the link:

http://www.befreetech.com/techpage.htm

Tell me what you think.
slucas

[hartiberlin]

@2Tiger,
if you would post it in German,
when I get some free time I will make a good english translation.