The downfalls of conventional electrolysis - and how to fix them

[markdansie]

@Oswaldonfire
1. I previously asked how what is the ratio or water to our solution of NAOH is to be usd in the tube to start with?
2. Do you start with just the concentrated solution and add water or is it say 50/50.
3. You speak about lets get one running first,we are all here n the belief you did. Do you currently have one running and if ot when was the last time you did?

Yes my teamwill be replicating but some important info is still missing.
Mark

[mscoffman]

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On another note, I was wondering if a Bedini circuit could be used for the coil as they're easy enough to put together, just not sure if the frequency and magnetic flux would be strong enough.  I've made some in the past that were self exciting and open core (air core) where you could slip in the PVC tube into it.  I know they don't take much power to run and the coils don't get hot.

Regards,
Paul

@goat

A better way to describe it would be to build a Joule Thief circuit
but put the magnolyser coil in place of the toroid but wind some
smaller gauge enamel wire around the driver coil that is there. Then
use a 2n3055 transistor rather a 2n2222. Start off with 5Volt DC
from an old PC power supply then to 9Volt and ultimately to 12VDC.
The Jt is a blocking oscillator and it’s output is pulses. This set
up should give you about 15Watts at 12VDC. The problem is the
process may modify it’s own waveform and we don’t know if that
would be a good or bad thing? Someone with a oscilloscope should
try it first to see what signal it is generating. It will need to have
it's operating frequency set with a capacitor.

:S:MarkSCoffman

[LtBolo]

I'm a little puzzled.

The Power Point presentation from AlaskaStar spends far more time discussing the coil than the gas production. If this is a simple matter of magnetically exciting sodium ions to catalyze dissociation, then why the heavy emphasis on the coil. The reason I ask is because if the coils are wound as flat solenoids, and you pulse them with DC at resonance, they are going to act like Tesla coils and be producing some interesting LMD output. If that is a critical part of the process, then there is far more going on here than just the sodium thing.

Can oswaldonfire, or others who have built and demonstrated the claimed output, confirm whether that particular coil arrangement is critical to the results?

And on the subject of results, are there any video demonstrations? Forgive me if I missed the posting. These results are pretty extreme...would love to see some evidence before investing time and resources.

[ramset]

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              it is more important that we get off our computers and begin experimenting.

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                                                                   As you wish!
                                                             Lets make some "GAS"

[Gwandau]

To those of you who are wondering about the exact state of the NAOH solution
that oswaldinfire is referring to, maybe I will be of some help.

He is clearly referring to a saturated solution of Sodium Hydroxide in tap water.

A saturated solution is made by gradually mixing Sodium Hydroxide into water so that
the solution doesn't get to hot. When reaching a point where the crystals seems to
stay undissolved one should wait at least a couple of hours before adding more if needed,
and then let it rest to next day.

If there is still undissolved crystals the next day, I can assure you that you have a
100% saturated solution.

Now you have to filter away all those solid crystals remaning, and what you will have after filtering
is an almost clear solution.

And just as mentioned, this is really a dangerous area of experiments, combining saturated lye
with an eventual explosive rapid release of HHO could easily  become a disastrous situation.

Oswaldonfire also mentioned that the concentration of NAOH is going to be constant as long as there is
a continously adding of water replacing losses due to the HHO process.

I believe the best way to test oswaldonfires´ information is to simply express high frequency pulsed
EM fields into an open container of saturated NAOH, and watching the whole thing from a safe distance.

If this creates HHO in excess amounts, his words are validated.

No need for any exact simulations here or taking energy efficiency into consideration at this stage,
since the very concept of getting the ions in the solution to act as alternating cathodes/anodes is
what has to be tested.

Like so many other of you I will of course do some tests to verify this highly intriguing statement of oswaldonfire.

Thank you, by the way, oswaldonfire for this adrenalin boost in HHO experiments, really hope you are walking your talk.

Gwandau