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vetting god

Started by WilbyInebriated, July 23, 2010, 04:40:11 PM

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WilbyInebriated

Quote from: t00ls on July 31, 2010, 01:24:11 PM
I know you started this , but maybe you used the wrong term:

vetting;

Vetting is a process of examination and evaluation, generally referring to performing a background check on someone before offering him or her employment, conferring an award, etc. In addition, in intelligence gathering, assets are vetted to determine their usefulness.
well, lets see. it says 'generally referring to' right? problem is, i specifically specified god, so it's obvious i wasn't referring to performing a background check in the modern sense of the word. go back to your wiki, read the rest of the page and cases, and see if you can figure out why i was using that term in the context i did.

Quote from: t00ls on July 31, 2010, 01:24:11 PM
so in a sense the other guy who posted gave his opinion on a background check about gods usefulness.....not to say it may not be fact, but what kind of facts do you offer
key word there, opinion... i offer no facts, it's not necessary for me to do so. i'm not a theist. i don't believe in godfairies, and i'm not spreading the word of them to others.

Quote from: t00ls on July 31, 2010, 01:24:11 PM
I contend that no one on this planet can offer any real facts, and vetting an unknown is not a worthwhile project
do you have any material evidence or a logical proof to present?

Quote from: t00ls on July 31, 2010, 01:24:11 PM
Nonetheless I do believe in a higher intelligence/power/god if you will , but it is more of the same view as some more enlightened people

in the expanse of the universe there is an abundant supply of pure energy (not potential) ....all atoms show us this.

I believe also that higher power exist as such, and that our soul/consciousness is also of that pure energy.....only while inside of us , it does have potential

from wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potential_energy

In physics, potential energy is the energy stored in a body or in a system due to its position in a force field or due to its configuration

so a "god" energy would not be contained in a body, only once that same pure energy is captured ( somehow) could it begin to take form and shape
this thread is specially dedicated to the subject of VETTING god. what you 'believe' god is does not qualify. furthermore, since you like to pick at verbage, i think you used the wrong term. to say you 'have faith' would have been a better choice than to say you believe. go look up faith in your hallowed wiki and you will see what i mean ;)
if you have some material evidence or a logical proof, great! present it.
thank you for your cooperation.

Quote from: t00ls on July 31, 2010, 01:24:11 PM
so I ask you....how do you do a background check on something that has no form
not my problem, i am not a theist.
There is no news. There's the truth of the signal. What I see. And, there's the puppet theater...
the Parliament jesters foist on the somnambulant public.  - Mr. Universe

t00ls

you got me.....flaws

all kinds of flaws in the traditional god

also...no facts to confirm

11:11



most things that exist,
do not leave "physical proof".

either because their physical parts are "proof" of nothing,
or because most of the components that they are composed of,
are not even physical.



for the above reasons,
a person who only understands physical proof,
is incapable,
of understanding most of the universe.

because most of the universe,
would either be inconclusive to their self-squished brain,
or would be invisible to their non-physical mental perception.

AKA a willful belief based blindness,
in physical proof only.

AKA ultra-hypocricy.



but it gets even more hypocritical than that.

because a persons opinion,
that physical proof is required,
is itself mostly non-physical.

because opinion is a thought,
and thoughts are mostly non-physical !

so a person who only honors physical proof,
should also be physically and ethically incapable,
of honoring their own opinion !



they also could not honor their own perception of reality.
because perception,
while often using physical things as reference points,
is mostly made of non-physical thinking.



physical proof is a crutch,
that people who don't understand how probability works,
often use to comfort themselves with.

people who insist,
that physical proof is important,
when all of reality amounts to an educated guess.

their own educated guess,
that physical proof is important,
is no more valid,
than an educated guess,
that insists that god is real.



a belief in physical proof,
is for suckers and chumps.

it is worthless at best,
extremely limiting at so-so,
and destroys peoples quality of life at worst.

and if their belief effects all of society,
than it destroys the quality of life,
of all of society.

it is a thief that steals from people,
at least as much as the cAtholic Lurch and its Dope,
steals from people.



there is a greater probability that some god being real,
than there is a probability,
that physical proof is a reasonable and constructive belief system.

a god "could" exist.
but physical proof-ism ALWAYS fails to help anything.



someone can construct a a semi-functional god-bot more easily,
than they can convert the erroneous belief in physical proof-ism,
into a constructive methodology,
by which to operate someones brain.

you should not believe in a god who does the work for you.
but you should believe in physical proof, even less !



WilbyInebriated

11:11
i repeat, this thread is specially dedicated to the subject of VETTING god. what you 'think' god is does not qualify.
if you have some material evidence or a logical proof, great! present it. why is this so difficult? it's only one deity to vet, it's not like i am asking you to vet all 1,111 of your 'spirit guardians'...

thank you for your cooperation.
There is no news. There's the truth of the signal. What I see. And, there's the puppet theater...
the Parliament jesters foist on the somnambulant public.  - Mr. Universe

LarryC

@11:11,

I understand most of what you are saying and agree in part, but what does this mean (farrah day's out of control typing-claws)?

Regards, Larry