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Overunity Machines Forum



Ronald Classen's H2O Motor Project

Started by rlm555339, April 07, 2005, 12:30:12 PM

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rlm555339

Okay, let's try this again.  I misfigured it in the previous post.

It should be like this..........

1800 rpm x 10 magnets = 18,000 pulses
18,000 x 9 coils = 162,000 magnet passes per minute
rectified sine means 2 positive pulses per coil pass so
162,000 x 2  = 324,000 positive pulses per minute
324,000 / 60 = 5400 Hz

So my DC current consists of actually 5400 Hz.  It's not coming from a battery.
Ronald Classen, 30+ years electrical tech

Dinorben

Quote from: rlm555339 on April 22, 2005, 04:59:10 PM
I was referred to this patent by a person on egaspower group

http://patimg2.uspto.gov/.piw?docid=US006126794&PageNum=1&&IDKey=785F51E0C55E&HomeUrl=http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1%2526Sect2=HITOFF%2526d=PALL%2526p=1%2526u=/netahtml/srchnum.htm%2526r=1%2526f=G%2526l=50%2526s1=6126794.WKU.%2526OS=PN/6126794%2526RS=PN/6126794

It uses a combination of pulses to get two different forms of hydrogen. Anyone understand the chemi-terminology in this document?
I'm currently trying to figure out what's going on that makes it so special but I don't understand the types of hydrogen mentioned in the documentation.

In orthohydrogen the two protons are "spinning" in the same direction. In parahydrogen they have opposite spins. (Don't interpret "spin" too literally - it's a quantum property).

Hydrogen is normally 75% ortho, but this changes with temperature and magnetism - which is maybe how the patented device works.

The two forms of hydrogen are chemically identical but have slightly different physical properties which become important when handling liquid hydrogen - so NASA gets very excited about which type they are dealing with. See

http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/SP-4404/app-a3.htm

Hope this helps,

Dinorben
Dinorben

kenbo0422

NASA gets excited about alot of things.  My recent visit to Langley last year gave me a peak at the 'new and improved' FOAM insulation that will be EXPOSED on the main fuel tank for the shuttle.  I clearly stated above the noise of machinery "who's f**** stupid idea was it to have exposed FOAM on an aircraft that travels at those speeds?"  All I got was diverted eye contact and silence.

Makes you wonder about the other things they do.
Ken

rlm555339

Quote from: rlm555339 on April 22, 2005, 04:59:10 PM
http://patimg2.uspto.gov/.piw?docid=US006126794&PageNum=1&&IDKey=785F51E0C55E&HomeUrl=http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1%2526Sect2=HITOFF%2526d=PALL%2526p=1%2526u=/netahtml/srchnum.htm%2526r=1%2526f=G%2526l=50%2526s1=6126794.WKU.%2526OS=PN/6126794%2526RS=PN/6126794


Can anyone offer a speculation on the nature of the second coil mentioned in this patent?  All it says is:
Coil #104 is 1500 turns.
Coil has 17 - 24 Hz.

Now I fail to see how you can have a 1500 turn coil without the wire being insulated.  However, it doesn't say so and insulated wire doesn't come in direct contact with the water so that leaves question as to how it works.  Also, it doesn't mention a core so I am presuming there is none?
1500 turns of #26 AWG magnetwire is about a 2 amp coil if it has a ferrous core.  Without a core it would be less due to heating.  So.........having said all that,

"Can someone recommend how to build it, and of what, and what kind of wire?"
Ronald Classen, 30+ years electrical tech

rlm555339

Thank you Dinorben.  So maybe if all the second coil (#104) has to do is alter the magnetism, then it doesn't have to directly contact the water. (meaning direct metal-to-water contact, not submerged)  Just the fact that the coil is energized and creating a field in the water is enough to give those lil proton guys a different spin?

The whole trick is to end up with the type of hydrogen that burns better than it explodes.  This would be better for the type small engine being used, I think.
Ronald Classen, 30+ years electrical tech