Late Harvest Moon

[Atlastired]

Why dont you start your own tread on Religion?
Your Trolling contract is preventing you from creating new topic?

This Topic is on Astronomical Changes and its Impact on Climate
Not about your opinion on your lack of spirituality

Thanks for respecting the topic

[gravityblock]

just as noone will die a physical or spiritual death without god. i was mocking your nonsense...

Science says energy can not be created nor destroyed.  If this is the case, then the unverse should not exist, for it contains both matter and energy which can not be created.  How is this way of thinking logical?  It's not logical at all, and you choose the illogical over the logical.  You choose nonsense over common sense.  You choose irrelevant things over relevant things. 

GB

[jadon1979]

Logic and reason are nothing more than individual perception.  I am a coder... been that way for 15 years.... my sense of logic and reason differs greatly from many other people.  My sense of logic stems from an object oriented method of thinking.  I break everything down around me.  It's a force of habit to take things down to their base ingredient.  I want to know what things are, what created them, where they spawned from, how the logic behind them came to be, what outside object triggers events within this object and so on.  I believe this physical universe had a starting point.  I believe there was a source before it's starting point.  I do not believe in creating nothing out of thin air in this PHYSICAL universe.  I do not believe in an infinite particle floating around that magically started to degrade into other particles.  If something is moving through space it is because an event took place to make it move.  What was the event and what was the object that initiated that event?  Now lets run into an infinite loop because we'll have to ask the same questions about this object now.  By infinite loop I mean you'll have to keep asking the same set of questions about every object you come across down the line.  So you'll accept the infinite loop or accept a source.  If you accept the infinite loop then you'll accept that "matter" can be created.  Now... if you accept that... let's make that an object... and ask the same set of questions as before.  If you're following a long so far you'll start to see that a source is required.

[WilbyInebriated]

Science says energy can not be created nor destroyed.  If this is the case, then the unverse should not exist, for it contains both matter and energy which can not be created.  How is this way of thinking logical?  It's not logical at all, and you choose the illogical over the logical.  You choose nonsense over common sense.  You choose irrelevant things over relevant things. 

GB

i haven't chosen anything, you have. show me one quote of mine where i tell people how the multiverse was and is... you won't find it. want me to show you where you have done this?

[WilbyInebriated]

Logic and reason are nothing more than individual perception.  I am a coder... been that way for 15 years.... my sense of logic and reason differs greatly from many other people.  My sense of logic stems from an object oriented method of thinking.  I break everything down around me.  It's a force of habit to take things down to their base ingredient.  I want to know what things are, what created them, where they spawned from, how the logic behind them came to be, what outside object triggers events within this object and so on.  I believe this physical universe had a starting point.  I believe there was a source before it's starting point.  I do not believe in creating nothing out of thin air in this PHYSICAL universe.  I do not believe in an infinite particle floating around that magically started to degrade into other particles.  If something is moving through space it is because an event took place to make it move.  What was the event and what was the object that initiated that event?  Now lets run into an infinite loop because we'll have to ask the same questions about this object now.  By infinite loop I mean you'll have to keep asking the same set of questions about every object you come across down the line.  So you'll accept the infinite loop or accept a source.  If you accept the infinite loop then you'll accept that "matter" can be created.  Now... if you accept that... let's make that an object... and ask the same set of questions as before.  If you're following a long so far you'll start to see that a source is required.

and i have coded for over 30 years... mint? you don't believe there was a source before it's starting point... a belief requires material evidence or a logical proof. you have NEITHER. you have FAITH there was a source before it's starting point.

do not ask why? be cautious with how? why? leads inexorably to paradox. how? traps you in a multiverse of cause and effect. both deny the infinite.