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Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison

Started by dani, April 26, 2006, 04:11:36 PM

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DDarcade

Quote from: Koen1 on November 04, 2008, 09:46:08 AM

I have made a few with Germanium powder, with Gallium, with
Aluminium powder, with Iron powder, with crushed Pyrites, crushed
Galena, all kinds of stuff.

So, have any of these worked?  Have you been able to power a small electric motor like John does in his video?

Koen1

@Jeanna: yeah, I was afraid of that... What with the security checks of just about
everything increased to the level it is today, I would actually be surprised if anyone
managed to send me any Tritium filled objects or materials from the US.
I would be less surprised to find two guys in suits with heavy US accents on my
doorstep, asking me some questions. ;) :D
Or our own Dutch versions of the same, of course. Heck, I'm probably on a dozen
lists already, what with all the searching for suppliers of all kinds of nasty chemicals...
But then again, I am also on their lists of OU fanatics and actual inventors, am
a registered member of the Dutch inventors society, so if they have any sense of
data correlation they should have filtered me out as "mostly harmless" by now.
;D

@DDarcade: Well, to be honest, none of my Rochelle Salt based Hutchison style Cells
have produced any lasting output. Some showed very low output in the range of 100 to
300 mV at anywhere between the 2 and 16 milliAmps but in all of them the output dropped
down to zero within a couple of days. Most never produced output at all. Some produced
only an electret-like steady and low static charge, zero amps.
The major problem is that John never mentioned how much of which materials he is using.
I may be using too much or too little. Also, not all of my experiments were done using
clean and constant high voltage DC in the several kilovolt range, but some were done
using hV pulses (pulsed bug zapper at 2kV), others were done using lower voltage
but steady DC. So that may also play a role.
I have asked JH for suggstions or advice on how to improve the output many times,
he never replies. I suspect that is because Cell construction is still a bit of a chance
process with him as well, although he won't admit that. One of the most recent
reports of a few Cells made by John and tested by some German guy seem to indicate
that the output he got from those relatively recently built cells was comparable to the
output some of us have been able to produce in our silicate-, bentonite-, and several
other cell variations. And that is not in the high output range that John has claimed
in some of the videos.
What you see JH do in some of his videos, take a micro motor and have it run directly
off his Crystal Cell, is indeed a trick I have seen performed. I have not done so myself,
as I do not have such a ultra low power micromotor lying around and they are not cheap,
but I have performed almost exaclty the same micromotor demonstration with Marcus Reid
in his laboratory, where Reid showed me several of his Crystal Cell versions and allowed me
to check them. He had, and probably still has, a digital LCD clock there that is also
directly powered by a couple of Cells. I have also run a small digital clock off a few of my Cells
for a little while not very long ago. I believe Ian Middleton from our little group here has
been doing the same or has done so a little while ago. Right Ian? :)

So yeah, some of my cells work, although not the types that I have built according to Johns descriptions.
The types that I have managed to get to work are of a different composition, they use different materials.
Large part of the theory is still similar, though. ;)

sutra

hi guys,

I'm about to convert the 40KV into DC current using a HV capacitor and a couple of HV diodes......

An upgrade about the latest cell hardened with 40KV...well polarity is correct and steady at 0,150 V, I keept it connected to a 39 KOhm resistor for 5 days continuosly....the voltage was the first day instantly at 0.076 V, now it shows 0.040 V...still very sensitive to heat.....

For the next mix I'll take into consideration the specific weight of the materials to calculate ratios....I want to use 2 parts RS with 1 part of Galena and 1 part of Pyrite in volume but it looks like that as for experience, the weights taking into consideration the volumes won't allow an easy mixture: probably too hard even molten...suggestions?


I'll keep you posted

Koen1

What do you mean "too hard even molten"?

Do you mean that you think a mix of 2:1:1 RS:pyrite:galena
will be difficult to melt down from a solid powder/gravel mix?
You may be right there...

In my experience it is quite easy to mix them up if you have the
pyrite and galena grushed nicely into fine dust and gravel,
and add them to the molten RS.
Yes, you may have some issues with the heavier pieces of
pyrite and galena sinking to the bottom a bit, but the mixing
should be easy.
I have noticed that re-melting such a Cell with the galena and pyrite
already in the mix takes a lot longer and needs a lot of stirring
to get the stuff to liquify evenly again.
So I get the impression it is much easier to make a new cell from fresh
RS and ingredients than it is to re-melt and add to the mixture
after it has already solidified. And that makes sense too. ;)

sutra

Hi Koen,

What I mean is that out of my experience, to obtain good stirrable mixes, Rochelle salt must be around 50% of the composition in weight.
So a ratio of 2:1:1 is ideal considering only the weights of ingredients. 

My aim is to create a material having a layered structure of R.S.--Galena--R.S.--Pyrite-- etc

OR

R.S.--Galena--Pyrite--R.S.-- etc...

whatever the physics will arrange with the high voltage....

But the problem is that as I'm planning to do, considering volumes and the specific gravity and composing the mix with the same ratio, for a total volume of approx. 103 cm3, the weights of the ingredients would be as follows:

R.S. 23.27 g. (specific gravity of 1.79 Kg./L22.26 % in weight
Galena 48,75 g. (specific gravity  7.5 Kg/L) 46.64 % in weight
Pyrite 32.5 g.  (specific gravity 5 kg/L31.09% in weight

And it looks to me impossible to obtain a good bond between components, due to the lack of RS.

If you guys have different experiences than mine, your suggestion would be very precious.
Cheers.