FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR

[teslaalset]

@teslaalset,

As I have stated previously incandescent light bulbs are poor overunity demonstration
devices because they suffer from negative thermal resistance. This means that the
resistance of the filament is variable and a cool bulb will be a much lower resistance.
So these bulbs tend toward operating as constant power devices. This can help
stabilize the output power of a raw overunity generator, but it also means that it is
very difficult to know exactly what wattage a bulb is operating at. Most likely he has
measured the wattage of these bulbs at the reduced voltages. And I would imagine
his numbers are correct.

I recommend a LED bulb be used as a demonstrators as they transmit much more
energy away from the generator as light rather then having energy hanging around
as heat.

:S:MarkSCoffman

Mark,

I respect your loyalty to Ismael, but a factor of 2 in resistance value is a lot in this particular case.

In general, I think this guy needs to be a bit more structured in doing his measurements.
Using light bulb or even leds is certainly not a good reference, we all know that.
Until then, I remain skeptic.

[pese]

I vote to send Ismael back to High School.

Why?
Well, 2000 Watt/220V light bulbs have an estimated resistance of 24.2 ohms.
(R=Volt^2/Power, NOT Volt/Power!!)
At 85 - 92V this means a power consumption of roughly 300 - 350 Watt, not 800 Watt

His statements are full of this kind of crucial mistakes.
He seriously needs to check his data otherwise he is just scamming without even knowing it himself.

Give attention.
This resistance is true  IF its lightning at full power !!

If the bulb ist off . (filament cold) so the resistance can be the half ,
(pls test this exactly out) .
That say that an 80Volt red glowing lamp have not 24 ohms . possibly lower than 20 Ohms.

The Ampers and watt´s must be calculated another way !
Pese

[neptune]

@ Pese . In the past you described a method to estimate power consumption of a light bulb . It is an old Amateur Radio method . Make a box divided into two equal compartments with a frosted glass lid . Place the bulb under test in one compartment . Place a second identical bulb in the second compartment . Feed the second bulb from a DC power supply fitted with volt and amp meters . Adjust DC power supply so both bulbs are equally bright .Calculate power= IxV .Do you think this method would work here? You could measure the brightness more accurately by a small solar cell and milliamp meter .

[bolt]

Proper measurements are very easy to do. The use of battery terminal voltages and guessing lamp brightness will always have a massive discrepancy.  Despite the fact the DOE car tests clearly showed a good OU device these silly tests without proper measurements will not do Ismeal any favours.

Put a volt meter on the batteries and a current shunt to get i/p watts. Do the same with the load. Volts and AMPS and then a scope shot to make sure we are looking at either SINE or DC on the o/p A 3kw electric heater is a good load and then measure accurately the power going to it.

If the MEG is unchanged from the car data tests it has a COP of 2.7. For 1000 watt load the battery will be providing around 370 watts.

A 24Ah battery has about 288 watt hour so two in series capacity 576 watt hour. However lead acid is rated at 20 hour discharge. Within 1 or 2 hour discharges capacity can be 30% less. This assuming the batteries are brand new is enough to supply 1kw out of the meg for about 90 mins while the battery load is a constant 370 watts.

Its loopable assuming 1kw  is a 24/7 comfortable MEG  figure without over heating. 370 watts needs to go back plus losses could need a total of 470 watts going back if using inverters and lead batteries. This means it can loop and run a 530 watt load indefinitely.

However it would be so much better to see all this properly measured and recorded. Its also interesting that Ismael is considering using the MEG as a power source as i strongly suggested about a year ago  without it being tied to an electric car.

[neptune]

@bolt . You are of course quite correct in all you say .I especially agree about using the MEG independently of the electric car . However , as previously stated in other threads , the two lamp idea can still be very useful in devices where the output consists of complex waveforms . All that I ask is that people keep this useful device in mind as an additional weopon in their armoury .