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Electricity Amplification Device - It's so simple !!! (Hatem Magnetic Cogging)

Started by bimbothova, October 13, 2010, 11:40:13 PM

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kampen

Dear Mr. Bolt,

after reading your message I became very interested in this device.
Unfortunately I am NOT an expert in electronics but would like to build a unit with a 3 phase primary motor as you suggested.
No need for "looping" for me just would like to use the extra power.

Can You give more details (step by step) how to do?
Selecting the best motor/generator, wiring, type of magnets to use.
At my place in Europe we have 3 phase asynchronous motors with 3000 rpm and 1500 rpm.
What's the expected LIFETIME of these high-speed rotating magnets?

Any help is welcome.

Thanks in advance,
kampen

tagor

Quote from: bolt on October 16, 2010, 10:09:28 PM
I am really surprised it took so long for anyone to pick up on this idea here an try it as i looked into to this over a year ago. Already well known in the art magnetic coupling is VERY efficient like 99% without doing anything fancy. The theoretical gain from 3 ring pairing neo magnet drive is 161.8% as magnetic field becomes 3 phases of magnetic flux each shifted by the offset. No accident this is Fibonacci sequence 1.618

According to MindFreer he claims he now has many people who achieved the same results from replications.

quote"After he bought this document, he began to work on a prototype with the plans. I advised him how to make his prototype better too, and with all this he succeeded to make his prototype a working model that doubles the energy in to out.
He is not alone, there are also other people that contacted me that succeeded to make one even better then him but that stays anonymous for the moment. Some are even running their house with like they tell me."


Read Hatem patent and others on magnetic duality pairing. So if you try this you MUST use a drum with 3 staggered neo levels as he has done and NOT one layer to be CHEAP. This is why for about 100 watts i/p the o/p is around 160 watts

Regarding the watt meters the only thing that can upset the readings is the o/p from the inverter is 50Hz 240v and qausi sine. Its not off frequency so well within the spec for the watt meters but the qausi sine creates a few harmonics due to the sharp edges and "may" cause the meters to twitch slightly on the power readings.  The i/p power watt meter is direct from the wall so nothing funny going on here. Its not a looped system but it runs with gain. Looping has many problems and not a simple case of connecting the o/p back to the i/p.

If i were to do this i run 5HP 3 phase motor as prime mover RV to drive 5HP 3 phase motor as generator. In theory at least 1000 watt drive should provide 1618 watts o/p or 618 watts OU using standard off the shelf stuff and o/p 120/240/480 as required. To convert 3 phase to single phase use C2C to match 100% 3 phase loading to single phase.

No need to loop or even convince the trolls or  OU bashers just make quite use of the 618 OU watts for yourself is enough to make major power savings for your house. The entire shebang should cost under 1000 bucks. Going this route avoids expensive cap batteries and inverters and bucks for watts nothing else can touch it.
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yes it is so easy ... why I have never seen an OU device ....

have you replicated this divice ?

or

are you selling the plan ?

it is very easy to speak of OU or selling plan to get OU but
not so easy to get a device with real OU

Airstriker

Quote from: bolt on October 16, 2010, 10:09:28 PM
I am really surprised it took so long for anyone to pick up on this idea here an try it as i looked into to this over a year ago. Already well known in the art magnetic coupling is VERY efficient like 99% without doing anything fancy. The theoretical gain from 3 ring pairing neo magnet drive is 161.8% as magnetic field becomes 3 phases of magnetic flux each shifted by the offset. No accident this is Fibonacci sequence 1.618

According to MindFreer he claims he now has many people who achieved the same results from replications.

quote"After he bought this document, he began to work on a prototype with the plans. I advised him how to make his prototype better too, and with all this he succeeded to make his prototype a working model that doubles the energy in to out.
He is not alone, there are also other people that contacted me that succeeded to make one even better then him but that stays anonymous for the moment. Some are even running their house with like they tell me."


Read Hatem patent and others on magnetic duality pairing. So if you try this you MUST use a drum with 3 staggered neo levels as he has done and NOT one layer to be CHEAP. This is why for about 100 watts i/p the o/p is around 160 watts

Regarding the watt meters the only thing that can upset the readings is the o/p from the inverter is 50Hz 240v and qausi sine. Its not off frequency so well within the spec for the watt meters but the qausi sine creates a few harmonics due to the sharp edges and "may" cause the meters to twitch slightly on the power readings.  The i/p power watt meter is direct from the wall so nothing funny going on here. Its not a looped system but it runs with gain. Looping has many problems and not a simple case of connecting the o/p back to the i/p.

If i were to do this i run 5HP 3 phase motor as prime mover RV to drive 5HP 3 phase motor as generator. In theory at least 1000 watt drive should provide 1618 watts o/p or 618 watts OU using standard off the shelf stuff and o/p 120/240/480 as required. To convert 3 phase to single phase use C2C to match 100% 3 phase loading to single phase.

No need to loop or even convince the trolls or  OU bashers just make quite use of the 618 OU watts for yourself is enough to make major power savings for your house. The entire shebang should cost under 1000 bucks. Going this route avoids expensive cap batteries and inverters and bucks for watts nothing else can touch it.
Hi broli. I know you usually don't speak bullshit, but where a hell does the gain here come from ? All I can see is a magnetic gear. Doesn't really matter if this setup has 2 or 10 motors. Can you explain it a bit better ? Some pictures maybe ? Are the magnets in attraction or repulsion mode ? On PESwiki there is also a big mistake, as Magluvin didn't find any overunity effect in this setup (as it's stated there) - you can find Magluvin's comment right there.

void109

Quote from: AirstrikerHi broli

Minor detail, but I believe you've confused bolt with broli. :)

altair

There is one simple way to test the efficiency of this magnetic gear, without using motors or generators.
If we assume that the principle is based on the supposition that two magnetic wheels, as depicted, would somehow multiply the torque of the input wheel by some amount, while driving the output wheel, why then couldn't we just take a pair of those wheels, without any motor or generator attached, and just swing the first wheel by hand. (Start the rotation by hand).
If the assemmbly is so efficient, the pair will just self-accelerate, proving the concept.

Altair