Relative Permittivity of Water

[h20power]

I.m speaking to The two of you!

I have never heard Torana mention Voltrolysis And I was seeking an opinion on theses recent Movies? I have heard you mention Tony Woodside  and his circuit , But nothing conclusive ?
  For the members here I would just like to hear your opinions  [Torana And Yourself]on these movies? You both have done ridiculous amounts of research ,to your credit!
  Something very big seems to be happening in these Vids,there is a common thread and I believe it is Tony's Circuit or at the very least Voltrolysis?I was hoping for some comments during your Intermission [the steel cage match]?

Chet

Okay,

My results are similar to his so I really don't have a problem with it, IE, getting far larger bubble evolution than everyone else: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hW78gKn1ZZ0 . With Tony's circuit someone said that it was too expensive to build an 8xa circuit and I simply pointed them out to someplace where they could get the raw board for $35 US plus shipping and put the circuit together themselves.

With me you have to understand it's all about energy content or energy flux density. To run a car on pure hho will take a lot of it far more than 2 Liters a second as that is 30 LPM and to run a car with hho alone takes around 55 LPM and up. But when one adds in the Gas Processor those large gas output requirements simply go away due to increases in energy content that the Gas Processor adds to the system. For the question I had before I figured all of this out was, "How did Stanley Meyer run a 1.6L engine with an hho production rate of 7 LPM?" I knew then that something was far different with his set up than from what I had seen before and at the time no one was asking questions like that and for the most part still aren't asking questions like that.

Where did all the science guys go? Why hasn't before me anyone ever ask a question about energy content and also went on a search to find the missing energy input in Meyer's system? Why hasn't anyone ever compared the energy content of hho to that of gasoline or other fuels until I came along? The author of this thread states that he has been at it for ten plus years but he has never ask questions like this before let alone went on a search to find just where the missing energy content might be being sneaked into the system, but why? But that line of questioning also is to be directed at you. Why, after all these years, have you not ask any questions like these? I mean come on I can't be the only one in the world who ever ask questions like these before, can I?

When I started in on this new line of questioning I found myself totally alone with no ones work to look at for comparison just to see if the ideas where on the right track or just to see if someone else out there had any questions like me. Everyones total focus was on the WFC and some where on the VIC transformer. The Gas Processor was never talked about before I came onto the scene. From the looks of it everyone thought it was just for show and had no real purpose in Meyer's work.

I ask questions about everything, even how a plant breaks down the water molecules and could that relate to what it was Meyer was doing? A lot of the wavelengths I chose are taken from observations of Mother Nature, the Northern Lights. In looking at how a plant breaks the bonds of the water molecules there are no large amounts of current being used, and only very minimal electrical energy is used to break those bonds. I look to mother nature for she always seems to do things in the most efficient manor to get the job of living done.

h2opower

[ramset]

h20
Thanks for the responce

This Claim 
Quote:
HEAT / STEAM RESONATOR (ELEMENT) STAN MEYER STYL ....CIRCUIT TEST
90VDC / 1000MA ...AT 1.2 KHz

WE ARE TESTING THIS ELEMENT FOR THE HOME HEATING BOILER.....HEATUP 1LITER WATER FORM 15C TO 90C CELSIUS IN JUST 1 SEC ....THAT IS FASTER THAN A MAGNETRON......ELEMENT IN THIS TEST IS 3XXX 3#INCH....WE US A NEW CIRCUIT FOR THIS TEST

In this Vid by WaterEnergy1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsmdSkYEp6M&feature=related

Raising the temp of 1 liter water 75 degrees in one second ?
According to member Exnihiloest this would take 313kv to do?

If these claims are valid or honest IMO this is more than enough to
change things on this Rock?

Thanks
Chet

[h20power]

h20
Thanks for the response

This Claim 
Quote:
HEAT / STEAM RESONATOR (ELEMENT) STAN MEYER STYLE ....CIRCUIT TEST
90VDC / 1000MA ...AT 1.2 KHz

WE ARE TESTING THIS ELEMENT FOR THE HOME HEATING BOILER.....HEATUP 1LITER WATER FORM 15C TO 90C CELSIUS IN JUST 1 SEC ....THAT IS FASTER THAN A MAGNETRON......ELEMENT IN THIS TEST IS 3XXX 3#INCH....WE US A NEW CIRCUIT FOR THIS TEST

In this Vid by WaterEnergy1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsmdSkYEp6M&feature=related

Raising the temp of 1 liter water 75 degrees in one second ?
According to member Exnihiloest this would take 313kv to do?

If these claims are valid or honest IMO this is more than enough to
change things on this Rock?

Thanks
Chet

It's wonderful to see that I am not the only one getting results now as that means the technology is starting to make it out to the people and hopefully in a year or two everything will be running on this technology  .

In the video I posted I am using 300 volts and 1330MA at 3.5k Hz. The water looks like it is boiling but the ER maintains a temperature of around 75-85 degrees F. I don't have the surface area they do to get those high gas output numbers but for a mini three cell ER it's not bad. The water in the ER is pure distilled water with no added anything and that simply can not be done or explained using Dr. Faraday's electrolysis method.

It sure is good to finally not be alone  . I hope they build a Gas Processor and see the gains that device will add to the system.

Peace and long live the Energy Revolution,

h2opower

[Torana]

ramset
1L 15 - 90 degrees  75 in 1 sec  Exnihiloest would be correct , KW NOT KV I seriously doubt he said volt  . do you think he was joking ? If you want a second oppinion try asking him twice!

who wants H2 when theres steam at that rate?

this is getting rediculous fast
I dont watch youtube antics and youve reminded me why.

NO NOT GOT THE SAME CHURCH

[Torana]

1 ;NOT knocking tonys efforts
2; NOT promoting sales ,I DONT recommend how people spend their MONEY ..

If you push pause + trace the circuit it is as drawn 8XA ***1981*** edition = LED.
Ignoring **losses of variac,12v T, BR ,SCR,D1 ,L1L2, is this an insane amount of gas ? ? ?
Notice the bubbles drop to level of top of the outer pipe?
this was the reason for a DOZEN individual cells (NOT CAPS) so the water was not interconnected.
Ive already written about it.
The water reclaims the bubbles =recombination , they dont want to exit the surface.
100 VDC @ .5 A at the plates ?

DC = zero freq , a cap has max Z at zero freq, so is that 200 ohm MAX ?
A water cap does NOT produce gas ....

Kadora = charge , store , discharge .   
Joss research = charge , store ,discharge .
Sandia = charge , store , discharge .
= NO GAS .. quite simple/ OBVIOUS

A cell produces gas = DC zero f , DC pulse , AC rect.

8XA 500mA  thru **35A SCR , **35A diode , **8A BR ?     (**An IN400x = 1A,  IN54xx =3A diode)

Test 1; BR only  ,2:BR + 8XA , 3:BR +8XA +L1L2 (done), 4: D1 ONLY , 1/2 wave IF the VARIAC can handle it.
Ive seen this circuit wheeled out for years with the same results....

In most cases a match says alot.