How does Perendev's motor work?

[TinselKoala]

How did this thread go from the Perendev motor to a diesel powered heater?
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It got hijacked by a newbie who thinks that patent applications and crackpot claims trump thermodynamics and proper experimentation.

[jimhitt]

unity is the best that will be achieved.

The earth has spun on it's axis for millions of years with no obvious source of external power.  We are surrounded by energy we do not know how to tap.  A rock has immeasurable internal movement to sustain it's existence, yet no one is supplying a source of external power as defined by our resident thought police.  Hell a wind generator is overunity - creates more energy that is supplied to operate it.  Closed minded certainty merely insures that new ideas die on the vine.  Well there is overunity we have just not yet believed it when it stared us in the face.  Supposedly when Columbus reached the new world, the ships were so far out of conventional experience for the natives that they literally could not see them.  Our "experts" are little better than primitive savages.  They can't see things outside the limited realm of their experience.  But why accept their blindness as the ideal.  We've all got 90% of our brain going to waste.  What the hey, lets kick in an extra 5% and change the world for the better.  Man is still very slightly developed in his potential evolution.  We are barbarians and superstitious fools with only slight understanding of the universe around us.  Certainty is a luxury for fools.  I actually know little if anything.  It is a great asset.

[BEP]

I haven't seen it discussed so I'll drop my two cents worth on the topic of this thread.

My opinions ONLY>>>>>>


Most replication attempts do not consider one detail....

The magnets were housed in an aluminum casing. I promote the use of aluminum for a few reasons.
Al is paramagnetic, unlike copper. Most think Al and Cu are the same. Wrong.

Al has a unique ability to act in a focusing and magnetic conduction manor, but only when it is moving in relationship to the mag flux (notice I did not say 'field'). Argue to yourself. There is a difference.

You can purchase magnets in such a casing. The manufacturers provide them this way for a reason.

Another thought I've never been able to confirm... The rotor construction MUST be of electrically non-conductive material. This material should also contain a small amount of aluminum flake or ball material. This is common in many industrial plastics but usually only added as pigment.

And...

If you want rotation you must have three vectors of force/potential. The magnets are not doing the work. Magnets alone cannot produce energy and then power.

Magnets are not the source of the magnetic force. They only focus the ambient force. This is why closing a loop of magnets is worthless until you add a second and third vector.

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[jimhitt]

The magnets were housed in an aluminum casing. I promote the use of aluminum for a few reasons.
Al is paramagnetic, unlike copper. Most think Al and Cu are the same. Wrong.

I used .010 Magnet Shield for shielding.  http://www.lessemf.com/mag-shld.html  I would like to find a non magnetic type shield as this does attract opposite magnets and creates drag.  Aluminum might be worth a try.  The bottom magnets I didn't shield at all though for a circular model I would guess it will be neccessary to focus the field.  In a circular device, the south poles are quite close together.  Magnets on the stator are harder to shield as one needs round shields.  I have not been able to find anything for this other than just steel pipe which may help direct the field somewhat.  None of the magnetic shielding companies I've investigated have a standard round pipe shape in shielding material.  The upper shielding is easy as it is flat.  I've considered having round shield fabricated from mu-metal, but imagine this would be quite pricey as it would then need to be re-annealed.  The later perendev pictures appear to use a round plastic like shield on the lower magnets, but I do not know what material this is.

[BEP]

I avoid the term 'shield' with magnetics. There is no such thing. Mag flux can be redirected, channeled, conducted. It cannot be stopped, unless you wish to try breaking the connection and using the reconnection (hopelessly advanced theory but recent scientific efforts are leaning this way).

Using any ferrous material for shielding will only redirect. The bogus but useful visualization of field lines will show you they stay connected no matter what you do.

Metals, like aluminum, act as nonferrous material when not in a moving flux and then act as ferrous when in a moving flux. I think this is as close as we can be to switching a magnet off and on.

The casing on the magnets I mentioned is generally very thick and cover all but one surface. I use a machine that incorporates such magnets. The magnets are cylindrical 2" in diameter and 1" long. All surfaces but one end is covered in about 1" solid Al. These are used to separate the lighter fast moving metal chips and still allow the heavier, slow moving chips to settle.