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Overunity Machines Forum



Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output

Started by hartiberlin, December 23, 2010, 10:34:37 AM

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Quote from: jgaltUSA on December 26, 2010, 04:32:27 PM
With all the brilliant minds in the world trying to solve the world's energy problems I can assure you that the solution is not going to come from anyone that produces such a ridiculous video. I am not even going to waste my time reading this thread. There is nothing to see here, move on!

Look, we unplugged it and it's still running. Hey look, we are wheeling it around on a cart with no wires attached...and it's still running. Now we are in a sealed elevator going down several floors and no one is passing out from the fumes. Please send money!
The biggest monkeys have the loudest screams:

I quote from a Norwegian site - the content seems to fit right in here:
"I see there are a handful of sensible supporters of the established knowledge here.

To use water as fuel via standard electrolysis will be difficult because it requires more energy than the potential one gets out, and with this increase in temperature also.

However, it is boundless naive of you to sit with your little mind and dismiss all the innovations with regard to the first and second laws of thermodynamics. To put this size of restrictions for self-perception makes one almost totally blind almost forever. And you will protest. Be my guest. It is absolutely inconceivable unintelligent to put limits on innovation.

Many elements have strong chemical bonds, but under the right circumstances, they act in quite different ways than expected. Your narrow scientific skeptics believe that the only way to open the box is to use a sledgehammer. And of course it requires considerably more energy than using the key.

Stanley Meyer did this for a long time ago. All of his patents is available. None, except the one now, as we speak, seems to have managed to reproduce his system. He has documents via the film that his engine ran on water. There are a number of witnesses. And the patent drawings are out there. Fortunately, there is a sharp private brain that are now beginning to successfully reproduce his system. Maybe they have managed something similar here.

It has been a similar histories from the U.S., Australia and Sweden. Everyone dies after some time. Also did Meyer, when he died of poisoning at a local restaurant."

Vidar

bolt

Quote from: jgaltUSA on December 26, 2010, 04:32:27 PM
With all the brilliant minds in the world trying to solve the world's energy problems I can assure you that the solution is not going to come from anyone that produces such a ridiculous video. I am not even going to waste my time reading this thread. There is nothing to see here, move on!

Look, we unplugged it and it's still running. Hey look, we are wheeling it around on a cart with no wires attached...and it's still running. Now we are in a sealed elevator going down several floors and no one is passing out from the fumes. Please send money!

Instead of sending money why don't you make this system? The generator is Chinese cost around 140 euro/bucks/pounds/  The HHO cell not so important any good dry cell construction will work it doesn't have to be the very same one. Cost 140 euro/bucks/pounds/   tubing pipes, fittings etc add another 100-200 = 380-480 so its cheap to try then YOU know if it works or not its the only way. If it doesnt work you can sell most of it and get your money back.

No amount of videos will convince anyone of anything unless you make it yourself. One thing i have noticed on this forum. People will try CRAP like self spinning magnets or swinging weights but the things that work with off the shelf parts no one will ever try it.


bolt

"PS 5 litres a minute at 400 watts is very impressive an about the best i know of...well done."

400 watts DC yields about COP 3 without resonance and as much as COP 12 with 3 phase resonance systems. So 3 * 400 = 1200 watts nett effective including RE. The are two things we know are instant energy debts here. The lamp 400 watts i think = 1200 - 400 = 800 watts and also the cell need 400 watts so i have 400 watts to run the engine and cover the alternator losses.  The alternator is going to lose perhaps 150 watts from mechanical to electrical so i got 250 watts left to keep the motor itself turning. Will it loop? YES! PS if the lamp is larger then its taken from this 250 watts. Due to low speed under load the full power will not be reaching the lamp in any case.

Mods required spark blanking essential. WHY? cos at TDC the inlet valve is already open 2 degrees causes instant backfire for HHO. The timing is to be set almost exact TDC use 555 in monostable trigger delay from existing hall trigger to retard 12 degrees. Skip odd spark use DIV 2 counter. No mechanical mods required.  Speed set simple use phase comparator on HHO PWM drive.

Omnibus

Quote from: bolt on December 26, 2010, 05:20:19 PM
Instead of sending money why don't you make this system? The generator is Chinese cost around 140 euro/bucks/pounds/  The HHO cell not so important any good dry cell construction will work it doesn't have to be the very same one. Cost 140 euro/bucks/pounds/   tubing pipes, fittings etc add another 100-200 = 380-480 so its cheap to try then YOU know if it works or not its the only way. If it doesnt work you can sell most of it and get your money back.

No amount of videos will convince anyone of anything unless you make it yourself. One thing i have noticed on this forum. People will try CRAP like self spinning magnets or swinging weights but the things that work with off the shelf parts no one will ever try it.

Problem is, there is a clear reason to expect self-spinning magnets to work and that the problems for the difficulty to make them are purely engineering. Not so with the HHO machine. There is no reason presented so far which would indicate that it can be an OU machine.