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Strategy Ruminations

Started by Omnibus, December 28, 2010, 09:35:57 PM

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Omnibus

Quote from: MrMag on March 18, 2011, 01:21:17 AM
I guess if your talking about a minuscule amount of energy gain or OU, this may be the only way to actually see it. If you close the loop or show obvious signs of OU, it isn't necessary at all.

Closing the loop is unnecessary if one can prove OU this way. Proving it this way guarantees there's OU which cannot be undone by most probable engineering failure, due to lack of funds and infrastructure, to close th loop.

Omnibus

Of course, there are two sides in using PSpice, which I've been emphasizing in my latest posts -- constructing the schematic and acquisition of data on the one hand and on the other analysis of the acqured data. Analysis of the acquired data should be done transparently outside PSpice by exporting it from there into a spreadsheet program such as Excel. Otherwise, no one, except for the makers of PSPice, knows what's exactly being done with the data. Just getting a number from a simulation is not enough. How this number is obtained and what it means is the goal of the exercise, not just crunching numbers with a sim program.

Omnibus

@poynt99,

Could you please check this out, applying the PSpice internal analysis tools. I just checked it by integration (not by just averaging the momentary powers) and it confirms the negative Pou/Pin I found otherwise.

Now, as I said earlier, this is the only circuit I've found to be OU. There may be others but I have no indication for that (other than Steorn's eOrbo perhaps; this one, however, is immediately verifiable).

conradelektro

Quote from: Omnibus on March 18, 2011, 10:05:10 AM
Now, as I said earlier, this is the only circuit I've found to be OU. There may be others but I have no indication for that (other than Steorn's eOrbo perhaps; this one, however, is immediately verifiable).

@Omnibus:

Unfortunately I can not read any of the files in RC_Zener_Diode.zip (because I have not installed PSpice). I would like to ask you to post a JPG or PDF version of the circuit diagram, so that everybody can see which circuit shows overunity. You might have published the circuit somewhere else before, but please be so kind to do it again here.

Your claim "this is the only circuit I've found to be OU" is extraordinary strong. I do not want to question it. I just would like to know, whether you came to this conclusion by "thinking" or by doing an actual experiment, like having built the circuit and having measured input and output?

In case you have built it, a photo of the actual implementation would be helpful. First of all, it would be encouraging. Because if one sees a possible physical layout, one has an obstacle less to overcome. Specially coils are much easier to replicate if one sees an example.

If the circuit is not too complicated and has no unobtainable exotic components, I would like to replicate it. In case you have built it, I would appreciate advice and hints (like where to buy components in case they are difficult to obtain). In case Farnell sells the components, I can get them within three days (or I might even have them ready).

May be others have built it. If so, please come forward and state the results. In case the results show overunity, I think it is important that many people replicate it. All efforts should be made to make replication easier.

It sounds like I am too lazy to do all the hard work myself. But claiming overunity is not a trivial matter and demands proof. The simplest proof is helping people to replicate it. The most important help is clear and comprehensible information, which so far has never been provided for circuits or machines which allegedly show overunity, otherwise the world would be full of replications. In this forum there are many talented electronics enthusiasts who can build pretty complicated circuits and contraptions. So, it should be worth while to give them and me an other chance.

Greetings, Conrad

Omnibus

@conradelectro,

I've already posted the schematic and the I and V traces somewhere here in this thread but don't remember what page they're on. So, please follow this link: http://actascientiae.org/v/comments.php?DiscussionID=9&page=1#Item_4 . I have studied the RC circuit extensively using Tektronix DPO 2014 and a Hall effect current probe and, like I said, I've found consistently OU in this circuit. To preempt questions that may be asked I have included a Zener diode in the circuit. I have found OU in transformers, coils with or without cores etc. but I heve never seen anything else so conclusively proving OU in electrical devices. The experiment I'm presenting shows that OU is inherent in the very theory of electricity but hasn't been noticed so far.