Practical Method for Production of Water Fuel with Piezoelectric

[Slovenia]

John_G sent this site to me.  He was trying to do something else with the piezos and was driving his with a signal generator.  Anyway, he's very busy and doesn't have time to help right now.  Here's the site he recommended that might have information for us.

http://www.americanpiezo.com/knowledge-center/piezo-theory/applications.html

[RAD-HHO]

Hey guys,
I finally got a chance to hook a scope to my piezo.  It's not as simple as it seems.  The piezo disc is part of the circuit.  The oscillator circuit looks to be sending the piezo disc a sawtooth wave @ 120 Hz.
When you hook the piezo disc to the circuit, it turns into a perfect sine wave @ 1.73 Mhz.  This is the frequency the manufacturer said it should be.  This might be a little tricky.

More  to do....

Rick

Ignore this post!

I did not have the water sensor bypassed! 

SORRY!

I am not able to modify it though!

I will post new results soon.......

[RAD-HHO]

I am soooooo sorry! 

I knew something wasn't right about the voltage being so low.

For some reason when the fogger is plugged in, but the water sensor is not sensing water, there is a saw tooth wave at the output @ about a half a volt.

When I activated the water sensor, the readings changed a little.
The saw tooth changed to a perfect sine wave, but still @ 120 Hz. The voltage is more what I expected @ 31 volts.

When I connected the piezo disc, with the water sensor made, the 120 Hz has 1.7 Mhz modulated on top of it. The voltage went up to 120 volts.

As of yet I don't have a function generator powerful enough to drive the piezo disc at 43 Khz. I have some pwm circuits I will have to dig out and try.

Rick

[The Power To Be]

Guys, you are making this harder than it is. I had asked that you look at the Pierce oscillator circuit, the transducer is driven only by crystal transistor with capacitor. Oscillation can be altered by voltage, crystal angles or temperature. Wave frequency in the water needs to be 43khz +. If you keep increasing frequency, you will end up with abundant HHO from piezo only.

The Zno crystals amplifies the effect. What bonds H2+0, it has a property that you are controlling here. You need to be adhere ZnO to a permanent structure, what crystal geometry best amplifies wave frequency?. they are the same one used in electronics.

Nebulizer circuit, same as humidifier. http://www.tdk.co.jp/tefe02/ef441_nb.pdf

Look at the Sol-tec video, there's a comment on a patent application  there from Japan, research it. There are many ways to dissociate water into HHO with little energy expense.

You do not have much time, TIME is a luxury which you do not have. Earth is Changing!.

[petar113507]

Guys! 
I have Great news!
The last batch of crystals did the trick.  I let them sit for longer than I usually would, and I thought that I was allowing it to grow longer crystals.  I didn't know if it worked or not until I had it dried.  It stopped raining today, and my crystals finally dried out.  Some of them that were stuck to the masonry jar.

So I scratched some of the crystals off the masonry jar.  Put it into a ziplock baggie.  Sucked out all the air I could.

http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss173/Romo_Land/SaltWater/0317012142.jpg

Put it in water, above the pizeoelectric.  The waves were heavily dampened by the ziplock bag, but after a few minutes, I could see a few air bubbles in there that were not present before.

Took a bigger ziplock bag, and more of that batch of crystals.  Still little bubbles seemed to add up over time.  Because the crystals were not "stuck" to any surface, they were constantly swooshing around the bag.  I could not easily discern, which were air bubbles,and which were little zinc oxide bits floating around.

So, I stuck the transducer inside the masonry jar, and left it on its side.  No mist was produced, but I hammered the insides of that jar with the pond fogger frequency.  It appeared to still be producing minute ammounts of air, out of the water.  Little bubbles rose to the surface.

The pictures are bad quality -- but you might be able to see them.  They liked to bubble up around the power chord.

http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss173/Romo_Land/SaltWater/0317012148.jpg

So, what have I concluded?

They DO work.  The crystals ARE pizeo-electric, and they produce HHO, in minute quantities.

So, what is the next step? 

We need to be making the crystals work better.

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Powerme just mentioned a structure which amplified wave frequency.  I suspect a common household bowl, or "half basketball" shape would do the trick, if the ZnO were bound in the center somehow -- where the wave would be most compressed into the crystals.

Making the ultrasonic transducer run faster -- past 43 KHZ, also suposed to increase HHO production.  Peirce oscilator circut for the frequency mod. (Sorry, I missed that.  )

Making my own ZnO from zamak may be useful. (For the Al, and Mg. in small quantities in it)

The Ionizer to produce HHO, Post-mist-fogger in setup.

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I will be posting my further progress this week, in how I will be fine-tuning the system.
For now, the proof-of-concept -- IT WORKS. 

Happy thursday to a close,
I hope we make it in enough time.


On an off-tangent note -- Powerme, I do not quite know what I am preparing for. 
I only know that I am bracing against something to come.
Is there any way that I can know what I need to be prepared with?  Or how I need to be prepared?  If not from you, where may I learn it?  How long do we have?  It is driving me nuts to see everything slipping up a little bit, and not know how long I have.

Thank you for your time -- I am trying. 
So far, it seems to be working. 

==Romo