Practical Method for Production of Water Fuel with Piezoelectric

[e2matrix]

I also wanted to ask has anyone had any success adhering their crystals to a substrate?  Or know what material to use for adhesion.  If it was posted earlier I probably missed it. 
Thanks
Chris

I've been thinking about silicone.  It's cheap as I get it around $3.00 for about a 10 ounce tube (like you use in a caulking gun) and that will go a long way.  You will normally have at least 10 to 20 minutes to get your crystals on to it before it starts setting up but the sooner the better.  Unlike most adhesives it does not get hard but remains flexible.  I think that may be good since anything that sets hard might limit the ability of the crystals to flex as we want them to do.  However I'm not sure silicone is ideal as it might have a somewhat dampening effect of vibration.  I'm mostly thinking out loud on this as I have not tried it yet. 

  I also want to mention the possibility of using two transducers at different frequencies if no one has yet found some readily available (and affordable) in the target frequency of 43-45 Khz.  If you have two transducers with a frequency difference between them of about 43-45 Khz then you will get the same effect and maybe even some extra benefit in harmonics. 

[The Power To Be]

I also wanted to ask has anyone had any success adhering their crystals to a substrate?  Or know what material to use for adhesion.  If it was posted earlier I probably missed it. 
Thanks
Chris

Hey Chris,
What material have you chosen for your substrate?. By adhering crystals, it is the same as building a transducer but self build transducers is much superior as you can optimize it's properties,  there are many ways to adhere crystals.


@All
Thank you for your continued efforts
I must apologize for my anxious habits at times but there is so many fascinating things that awaits us.

@b_rads
glowing paint is fun but how about using ZnS  as a transducer to convert electromagnet waves into water   sonoluminescence.

[The Power To Be]

I've been thinking about silicone.  It's cheap as I get it around $3.00 for about a 10 ounce tube (like you use in a caulking gun) and that will go a long way.  You will normally have at least 10 to 20 minutes to get your crystals on to it before it starts setting up but the sooner the better.  Unlike most adhesives it does not get hard but remains flexible.  I think that may be good since anything that sets hard might limit the ability of the crystals to flex as we want them to do.  However I'm not sure silicone is ideal as it might have a somewhat dampening effect of vibration.  I'm mostly thinking out loud on this as I have not tried it yet. 

  I also want to mention the possibility of using two transducers at different frequencies if no one has yet found some readily available (and affordable) in the target frequency of 43-45 Khz.  If you have two transducers with a frequency difference between them of about 43-45 Khz then you will get the same effect and maybe even some extra benefit in harmonics.

Great idea, it may work to lower frequency at same time with dampening effect, may be good for prototype.

You guys should spend more time building things, observe and just have fun. You creativity flows freely if you enjoy and have fun with your work.
Has anyone reduced Zamak?, you can build a simple HHO torch very cheap with common plumbing parts.  All materials that you need for this project can be recycled from common electrical waste. Use your stirrer to evenly mix metal solution for complete reduction.

Si is a great material to alloy in your toroid, you can refine common glass to semiconductor purity easily, even oxide silicon as well. You can make ceramic parts easily by refining common dirt that you walk on. You can build a small kiln with home made fire bricks, use HHO as your fuel. Utilize common materials such as Al, Zamak etc. Refine your own materials, you will learn a whole lot at the same time.

The secret of the Universe awaits you, please do proceed and learn to understand the forces of Nature, Together we can make a Change and set Man Free.

[Slovenia]

Hi Chris,

Great to see you are still around.   The 45 Khz transducers Mary has appear to be the right deal.  It looks like you are really getting into this now.  That's great!  The JT Circuit is to tune the transducer to the right frequency.  The power is increased by the transformers, but there also has to be an input voltage.  We're working with Pierce circuit in conjunction with the JT Circuit as I understand it.  I wouldn't mind getting one of those transducers from you if you are going to be ordering them.  Please PM me what the price would be including shipping and I'll get back to you if I want to do it.  Thanks!

Best Regards,
Slovenia   

Hi Solvenia,

I am inquiring that china company you posted about the transducers.  I will order them.  The 45khz at 35watts.  I have a question though.  Is the joule thief circuit the controller and power supply for the transducer?  That Mary at the company is asking what PCB I need and what are my power requirements after reading these last few pages on this thread I think I just realized I dont even need their PCBs for the transducer.  Am I correct?  It would certainly save me money and time.  If you are near my location I could drop one off or mail it to you I want to order 5 of them. 

Told you I was still around 
Chris

[Slovenia]

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