The Gabriel Device, possible COP=8

[Mavendex]

Hey mav

Ya, I forgot you posted the pdf earlier, couple pages ago. ;]

Says  superparamagnetic    It seems a bit confusing, I hope it can be had just powder, no water.   Says it has a shelf life and needs refrigerated.    Sooo is it the water that causes the shelf life, or if powder/epoxy would preserve it?  ;]

I will send an e to them and ask a few questions.

And I uploaded the hazard sheet here
Mags

Hey Mags,

Ya you can buy it just powder Im guessing it has to be refrigerated because otherwise things will accumulate together over time.

I wanted to also say I figured out turns ratios on this guy, for every 1 turn you will get .11 volts, no matter how many turns you have on your primary, only thing more turns on the primary will do is drop the power factor and allow a person with a variac to input more voltage with a desired amperage.

This is with the shells I had made and a couple of different nanocores with varying permeability.

So 1090 turns on the secondary with 12 guage wire should give us some healthy amperage and 120 volts

and 2180 turns on the secondary with 14 guage will do 250 volts

after you pass the threshold of 250 volts it seems to give you diminishing returns on the innercore as far as voltages and your amps wane.

but even with 6000 we were getting not a terrible return. So I have 12 gauge coming so we can get that healthy amperage and I have a 16 ready to test tomorrow afternoon. at the 2180 mark.

Kick the Tires and light the fires!

[Hope]

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[JouleSeeker]

Nano Perm Sheets link http://www.goldmine-elec-products.com/prodinfo.asp?number=G16600A

Thanks for this, Hope.  I just got a couple of these sheets, which may serve well for a cylindrical version of the Gabriel device... I'd like to try it.  I also purchased wire from the source you mentioned earlier -- thanks for these pointers!

   At the same time, I'm also looking into Don Smith's tapped-Tesla coil design...  has anyone else looked at this approach?

[Magluvin]

Hey Mav

Thats good info on the volts per turn. Seems to make me reconsider the hows of normal transformer ratios.

I wonder if the shell were thinner, if the sec voltage might increase per turn.  Have you had experience with thinner shells, or are these voltages the same in any config?

Was thinking on the higher turns to get the voltage up and keep the amps in range.   Maybe with more turns, even though the amps out total are kept at bay, the more turns could still be causing more field in the core because each turn at the desired amperage will induce flux..
More turns more flux. No?  10 turns at 10 amps, then 100 turns at 10 amps.  So maybe that is what you are experiencing with diminishing returns. I might say that once you get to that point, a larger(or better core is needed) to avoid high saturation.

Hey Hope

I have been planing on getting that scope for some time now. And your source, with 4 probes sounds like a real deal.
Really looks like a great item, better than the previous version. ;]


My goo core has a lot of wires. I made enough to fit a 1/2 in tube(wires painted). Tonight Ill count them and roll them and should be cured by tomorrow.

What I have figured is to coat the inside of a piece of shrink tube, and stuff the wire goo into the shrink and then shrink it to squeeze out some excess. Once cured, cut and peal the shrink and shave the ends level if need be. Hopefully in the end, we will be able to see each wire that are around the surface once pealed.

Powders are looking better all the time.  ;]

Mags

[Cheap4All]

I might say that once you get to that point, a larger(or better core is needed) to avoid high saturation.

I am going to experiment by winding wire around two nanoperms together, coz I think like you this may be a problem area, and I'm expecting the results could be quite an exciting improvement.
@ Hope.  Thanks for the info you found for me on the nanoperm sheets/foil. Even better being Ultra perm 80. Just what i was looking for 
@Mav.  Many thanks to you also for all your info provided to the forum and also especially for getting us all started on this exciting adventure.