The Gabriel Device, possible COP=8

[Cheap4All]

100 turns of primary driver IE shorted primary winding

Hello Mav, Just a few questions on shorted primary to clarify:
(1) Is this wound directly over the secondary 2k and also right around the nanoperm/s ?
(2) Is it shorted to itself and independant, or shorted and connected to the primary ?

[Hope]

Why not place the primary within the center as the milky way does, and then pick up the secondary THRU a surrounding core (doughnut) (iron shell with connected to a  nano perm central core)??  Nature knows the way.  We want to see what you are saying Mav.  To me it does not make a natural layout to go opposite of how nature does it.   Please "show us" your working COP > 1 model in that we can replicate it.  Salad bowls would even help capture with this design. 

AND as far as EV Gray repulsion of plastic goes.   Easy stuff.  We learned how to magnetize ANY material in the first round of Ed Leeds theories.  Why has no one replicated this yet??  If anyone needs to know how message me and I will share it.  But when I do you will kick yourself for not remembering it yourselves.   I want to understand your device as I believe we all do Mav.  But where is a live presentation so we can replicate it?   We could use a materials list and build specifics to make best use of our budgets right?  Especially the watts IN and OUT.  I have looked thru hours of messages to never find the "how" of the Gabriel device...    Is there ANYONE out there who has made a single working replication exhibiting COP > 1?  If so please post your build specs and results.  My life has only so much time I can use in these efforts as many of us do.  So please post all that you can to assist us into making Gabriel blow it's horn for the rest of us.  Why should anyone of us spend needless monies just getting to your model.  Let's maximize our resources and experiment beyond a working model.

[Mavendex]

Hello Mav, Just a few questions on shorted primary to clarify:
(1) Is this wound directly over the secondary 2k and also right around the nanoperm/s ?
(2) Is it shorted to itself and independant, or shorted and connected to the primary ?

(1) yes
(2) Independent - and shorted
(3) the other side effect of this is it drops the voltages on the secondary, So to boost voltages - either add to the secondary or experiment with this primary driver, so far I have added to the driver and it reduces voltages on the secondary even more, so Im chopping it up and making several drivers 15 turns a pop then shorting them, this way I keep my 100 turns that stop all the reflections but maybe we can trick the secondary to only seeing what I want it to see this way voltages will boost, just got finished up with making them last night, so Im putting the rest of it together tonight. And if that works then we are already set for adding caps cause I set the shorts to stick out of the gap I can just go ahead and untie them and add the caps.

I don't think its been done before so I have to check this avenue weather good or bad.

@hope - I think I do plenty already, you have the construction you have the latest of what im doing, I haven't gotten this far by watching videos, Ive gotten this far by doing the work. And yes there has been at least 3 people beyond myself which have done ou 2 of which you have already commented on, on this forum. So ethier you forgot or well I will just keep my opinion to myself.

[Hope]

NP, good luck.  And have not and did not see any results as you mentioned.  Only encouraged a person who was unsuccessful at finding COP > 1 using your suggested layout and windings.  Sorry you can't show your results to us, we as a group should not have to retread unfruitful work, as we are open source I thought.  So why the limited feedback and anger.  I am not asking anything but for specifics.  Why when anyone mentions Thane's projects do you get up in arms?  What is your COP up to tops now?  People just need to know what is working and push that envelope.  Not shortness for asking for specifics.   Making a working model makes other not so working models obsolete, that is all we are needing.  Why the guff?  Why not instead help these readers and builders make headway?
Do you have a video camera?  Can you take time to provide some photos of you recent efforts?  Can you show windings info.  I know you have said you have tried a lot of things so far, but what is the rig that is working over COP > 1 have?   It is a lot of cash buying nano perm cores and we want to be secure in knowing there is a reason for this outlay.  I am not the only person wondering this Mav.  I get messages from others here as well.  I apologize if you are offended by my asking you for the info and realize it costs you $$$ to experiment. 

[SchubertReijiMaigo]

Why not place the primary within the center as the milky way does, and then pick up the secondary THRU a surrounding core (doughnut) (iron shell with connected to a  nano perm central core)??  Nature knows the way.  We want to see what you are saying Mav.  To me it does not make a natural layout to go opposite of how nature does it.   Please "show us" your working COP > 1 model in that we can replicate it.  Salad bowls would even help capture with this design. 

Is there ANYONE out there who has made a single working replication exhibiting COP > 1?  If so please post your build specs and results.  My life has only so much time I can use in these efforts as many of us do.  So please post all that you can to assist us into making Gabriel blow it's horn for the rest of us.  Why should anyone of us spend needless monies just getting to your model.  Let's maximize our resources and experiment beyond a working model.

Hello everyone, sorry for my long absence in this thread...
Just to remember to you, page 44 of this topic and look the download section for the spec of my version...

I have conserved my working version, now I have some finace I have bought a DSO here: http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260812640404&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

Come from China...    4 channels, up to 1 megahertz signal, and many functionality...

The next experience will be trying to understand the phase relation behind the apparatus, because when I remove turns at the primary more current flow to it and secondary become at full brightness but no information about the PF of primary, the objective is to see reflection or not... 

More to come