SMOT - Close to closing the loop ,second video-BIG improvement

[vonwolf]

Bill
   I asked this earlier but can you drop the ball into another ramp like the smot in the begging of the circuit and drop the ball back into the starting point?
  Pete

[billmehess]

Bill
   I asked this earlier but can you drop the ball into another ramp like the smote in the begging of the circuit and drop the ball back into the starting point?
  Pete

When the ball drops from the top into the scoop it ends up still at a lower level than the entry point.
If the ball enters another smote configuration at that point it will exit at even a lower level. It would be logical to assume that one could simply have a line of smots each one raising the level when in reality just the opposite is occurring.
What I have been able to do with the setup as shown on the videos I have posted on you tube is to
be able to "recapture" approx. 2.25" of the 2.50" drop.
The entire smot configuration is mounted on a board which is tilted upwards so that this additional height helps to compensate for the drop distance.
My most current device has some changes. I have the ball exit the scoop and it enters a u channel. But due to the speed of the exit it moves up the uchannel about 6 in. (Thus up the incline).
At this point I can loop it back to the entry but I am still about 1/4" short of reentering the entry unchannel.
I am working on closing that gap.

[vonwolf]

When the ball drops from the top into the scoop it ends up still at a lower level than the entry point.
If the ball enters another smote configuration at that point it will exit at even a lower level. It would be logical to assume that one could simply have a line of smots each one raising the level when in reality just the opposite is occurring.
What I have been able to do with the setup as shown on the videos I have posted on you tube is to
be able to "recapture" approx. 2.25" of the 2.50" drop.
The entire smot configuration is mounted on a board which is tilted upwards so that this additional height helps to compensate for the drop distance.
My most current device has some changes. I have the ball exit the scoop and it enters a u channel. But due to the speed of the exit it moves up the uchannel about 6 in. (Thus up the incline).
At this point I can loop it back to the entry but I am still about 1/4" short of reentering the entry unchannel.
I am working on closing that gap.

Bill
  I might have used the wrong terminology here, it looks like the 1st ramp is sloped up slightly but if thats not the case then my suggestion in useless
  Pete

[Poit]

When the ball drops from the top into the scoop it ends up still at a lower level than the entry point.
If the ball enters another smote configuration at that point it will exit at even a lower level. It would be logical to assume that one could simply have a line of smots each one raising the level when in reality just the opposite is occurring.
What I have been able to do with the setup as shown on the videos I have posted on you tube is to
be able to "recapture" approx. 2.25" of the 2.50" drop.
The entire smot configuration is mounted on a board which is tilted upwards so that this additional height helps to compensate for the drop distance.
My most current device has some changes. I have the ball exit the scoop and it enters a u channel. But due to the speed of the exit it moves up the uchannel about 6 in. (Thus up the incline).
At this point I can loop it back to the entry but I am still about 1/4" short of reentering the entry unchannel.
I am working on closing that gap.

Exactly!! Thank you.... you see, only people like you and I can know this (actually experimented with it)... for all the rest, the human mind makes an illusion to the facts.

[mscoffman]

This video also looked inspirational

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPLILn3sCdQ&feature=related

Good luck!

Yeah, that is one of my favorite SMOT videos , even though I can't
read a word of the text....It seems like the "ramp" could be made as
long as necessary, then position energy collecting coils (or whatever)
all along the way... then have a "one battery" style alarm clock motor
with the battery replaced by a capacitor charged by the coils diode
or'd together *slowly* drag the runner across the sticky spot.

If those clocks can run for a year on one AA battery, they can't take
much energy to keep them going.

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The other question is could you have the array accelerate the ball
faster downhill then have it rise up over top of the starting point?

It should be possible to "shoot" the ball into the array at various
speeds and record the outcomes. Is any energy really being added
by the magnets? If one saw the transfer function as a graph
it might be easier to design a successful mechanism.


:S:MarkSCoffman