Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.

[mondrasek]

Had some time with my laptop waiting between meetings at a customer yesterday and was able to doodle the attached.  I have changed the wall thickness of the outside tank on the little 6 in dia. model from 1/8 " to 3/16" since it was the next size available.  This shrinks the outermost water gap and gives a better balanced operation IMO.

You can see that the system goes from Buoyant to Non-Buoyant when somewhere between 5.5 and 6 in^3 of water is removed from the "Full" condition that I used to start analyzing.

Thinking about a demo set up with just one of these ZEDs (to eliminate controls and energy capture systems).  I was thinking to plumb a hose from the bottom of the center of the ZED and run it into the bottom of a sealed bellows type vacuum cup with the proper dimension to dispense exactly the correct amount of water needed to take the ZED from a lowered condition of -1 inch, back up to the "Full" condition where it is still producing 12.3569 lbs of lift.  The bellows is completely filled with water and must dispence the correct amount of water (per the design) when being collapsed exactly 1 inch.

Now place a 12.3269 lb weight on top of the ZED to full collapse it 1 inch.  This will also force water into the bellows to make it expand 1 inch.  Now a weight of less than 12.3269 lbs is place on top of the bellows.  If it causes the bellows to collapse 1 inch while driving the ZED and it's 12.3269 lb (heavier) weight up 1 inch, OU is proved, right?

I think this simpler test setup is a nice balance point between complexity and necessity to demonstrate the principles of the system.

Thanks,

M.

[neptune]

That would seem to have been a wise investment of your time. Can I make a couple of practical suggestions? It is unlikely that you would find a set of bellows off the shelf, which when depressed one inch, would give exactly the amount of water that needs to be injected into the ZED to raise it one inch. What I would do, is this. [and by the way although you refer to the bellows as a "vacuum cup" it is not used to create a vacuum in this application.] Buy the approximate size needed, but err on the large size rather than the small. Instead of placing the bellows weight direct on to the bellows , Have lightweight beam pivoted at one end [half a see saw] touching the top of the bellows and place the weight on the beam above the bellows. Arrange an adjustable mechanical stop to limit travel of the beam, to inject the correct amount of fluid. As the bellows weight`s fall will not be exactly an inch, we now use Force X distance to measure input .


  Does anyone have an opinion as to whether bellows would be a better choice than a large hypodermic syringe, taking into account friction losses.

[johnny874]

As has been stated, a simple model to demonstrate OU [not a self runner] would not need a battery .


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                                                                          JOHNNY`S CAR                        WAYNE`S  MACHINE
Battery fitted?                                                            Yes                                              Yes
Is battery charged by the machine ?                              Yes                                              Yes
Is the battery the actual main power source?                   No                                               No
If you removed the battery, and made no modifications,
would the machine still function?                                    No                                                 No


What a coincidence, as you said. Give it up, Johnny.


None of us live forever. Concentrate on your Bessler work.
                                                                   
                                                                                   

  actually will probably be quitting Bessler. It's like AB Hammer told me once, he either gets the credit or will do everything he could to prevent it from happening. I think between him and my doctors, it's a waste of time.
And if it worked, there would be nothing to talk about, you know, a lever drops and the wheel rotates. BORING.. Can just build that little self repeating water pump I posted and make millions. That would be the smart thing to do. Don't need a shop to build it and since I have published it, I have one year to patent my invention.
I think what you guys are missing among other things is that air is compresable. This means it acts as a shock absorbing energy but not really able to put much back into the system. It's why they use them on cars and tractor trailer rigs to control ride height.

[LarryC]

I've set up a Material take off spreadsheet based on this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNPNiIeAi5g

I used the relationships in Fig 14 and Fig 15 of the patent for the calculations in the B and C columns.
I'm tired of looking at this, so there probably is errors. All, please take a look and point out any errors, not piecemeal, but all your noted errors at once.

@M, Please Autocad, so we can see if there are any intersections and what the build would look like.

Thanks, Larry

[see3d]

Thinking about a demo set up with just one of these ZEDs (to eliminate controls and energy capture systems).  I was thinking to plumb a hose from the bottom of the center of the ZED and run it into the bottom of a sealed bellows type vacuum cup with the proper dimension to dispense exactly the correct amount of water needed to take the ZED from a lowered condition of -1 inch, back up to the "Full" condition where it is still producing 12.3569 lbs of lift.  The bellows is completely filled with water and must dispence the correct amount of water (per the design) when being collapsed exactly 1 inch.

I think this simpler test setup is a nice balance point between complexity and necessity to demonstrate the principles of the system.

I believe you are taking the right approach to come up with a simple setup to demonstrate the essential heart of the system.  I have giving this some thought for a while.  Why not just have your input hose go up to a raised bucket of water with the height providing the exact pressure and the volume of water measured out to be exactly what you need?  It only provides the upstroke energy part of the demonstration.  For the down stroke, water has to be extracted.  The key is to show that you can remove more energy to get it back down that was used to raise it up.  That would be the most direct proof of operational validity.  Closing the loop would use the gain in energy to raise the volume of water back up to the bucket.