Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.

[mondrasek]

@neptune,  Have you learned nothing from the "Travis Effect?"  We use a bigger bellows and then put a block inside to limit the stroke and volume to exactly what is needed!

@LarryC, I'll draw it up.  Guess I can take my laptop home and maybe work on it some there.  I am off work tomorrow to celebrate my birthday (today actually) and have half a dozen projects already in mind.  But it shouldn't take too long if just drawing geometry.  Might squeeze it in today if nothing work related is too pressing.

@see3d, the reason I was looking at the bellows is that I am trying to show a relationship that a child can understand.  Two different weights traveling through the same distance.  But the smaller weight lifts the bigger.  You could have a simple balance next to it to show how it is the opposite of what a balance would show.  No equations.  No other physics involved.

M.

[see3d]

@see3d, the reason I was looking at the bellows is that I am trying to show a relationship that a child can understand.  Two different weights traveling through the same distance.  But the smaller weight lifts the bigger.  You could have a simple balance next to it to show how it is the opposite of what a balance would show.  No equations.  No other physics involved.

Yes, that would be conclusive, but you need to use a 6 layer system to get enough gain to realize that in a human perceptible way.

[mondrasek]

@LarryC,

It builds.

Two comments:

1)  The Pod needs a top and bottom.  The height there needs to be 23.50.  I made that change in the .dwg.
2)  The gap between the Outside Retainer and Riser 1 is too big, I believe.  Driving water into it from the thin gap inside Riser 1 will not raise the water level there by much at all.  It needs to be the thinnest gap of all.

Thanks,

M.

[neptune]

@Mondrasek. Yes, I like the idea of the block inside the bellows. It is doable, but it might be a bit fiddly to calibrate. In an earlier post, you said that you had corresponded with people who had seen the machine in action, and that it worked . Do you know, or can you say, if what was seen was the self runner, or just a simple model to show proof of OU . I would choose to see the latter given a free choice, especially if it could be stripped down before and after use. The problem of seeing the self runner , for a sceptic, is that you are looking at 2 large tanks that could contain anything. Given that the purpose of a model is to convince sceptics, this is important.
         There are probably a number of questions we need answers to before building a model . I have asked the first one before.
1.Is it necessary that the separate bodies of water inside the ZED [with the exception of the central chamber] are all equal in volume. If so this prevents the use of off-the-shelf riser sizes, and necessitates that each riser be custom made .


2 It would be a great help if we had a step by step procedure to fill and precharge the machine .


The more help we have before we start, the greater the chances of a successful build.


The person who will gain the greatest benefit from a successful build will be mrwayne. Replication will give him more credence and publicity. So I hope that he will give us all the help he can.

[mondrasek]

@neptune, I have not heard anyone I have cooresponded with talk of any models like we are discussing.  It was always about the larger units Mr. Wayne has built.  Explanations of the workings had to be done with diagrams and animation since you cannot see into those like you mentioned.

It is interesting to me that Tom from the videos has posted here and no one has directed any questions to him.  At least not openly.  I PMed him and we exchange a couple messages.  It was not on topic with this thread so I did not ask openly.

M.