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Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.

Started by mrwayne, April 10, 2011, 04:07:24 AM

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KanShi

@LarryC: What? I have made a partial error (with the pressure on the pod) with the corrected spreadsheet (you can read I was agreeing with mondrasek). But the point of my drawing is that I can have whatever pressure I want in my closed system. You are not limited to zero pressure at the top. Just pressurize the air more and you will get more pressure (eg. hydraulic lifts use that, you know?).

johnny874

Quote from: LarryC on June 20, 2012, 10:23:14 AM
LOL, what a load. I'll not waste time pointing out the obvious.

I do have one question. How many people do you know that actually fall for your 'make a error, don't admit it, change the story' technique?

I will be glad when you understand, you may be able to help.

Regards, Larry

   Wayne made an error and won't accept it. He thinks a higher static head creates more work. Unfortunately,
he is pumping water into a smaller channel. Because this slows down the flow of water, the hydraulic pressure it creates can't be converted into useful work by rotating something like his generator. He needs the increased work to happen in the same amount of time as if pressure were being apllied to a static head that has the same surface area as the orifice it passes through and the same surface area of the static head it is filling. Why they limit hydraulics to devices that are not dependent on the time factor to realize work.
edited to delete a part of one sentence to keep thought of the post properly expressed.

neptune

@johnny874. All I can say is that it is fortunate that nobody pointed that out to him until after he got it working then.

johnny874

Quote from: neptune on June 20, 2012, 02:06:51 PM
@johnny874. All I can say is that it is fortunate that nobody pointed that out to him until after he got it working then.

  Nobody has seen it work. It would have been fortunate for him if he would have listened to those that tried telling him that. According to what he has posted, he would have saved $70,000 is it ?
The reality is, I doubt he spent $40,000 patenting it as he claims.
edited to add; it's almost funny because I was harassed quite a bit for working openly on Bessler's wheel which can work. I tried finding people to work with, especially at besslerwheel dot com, but I don't think they want to see somethign that works. it seems to be all about who gets credit more than anything.
With static heads, what some people miss is that if you pump water up to a decent height, it will seem like there is extra potential. I mentioned it in one of my first posts, if water is pumped up to a height of 33 feet, then if 1/2 the volume/mass is released, it would have the potential for over unity. Basic math, 10 lbs. of water at that height woudl require 20 pounds of force in a mechanical pump. If 5 pounds drops 16.5 feet, it can use leverage to oeprate the pump and keep a cycle going. Unfortunately it's not as fancy as what wayne built but is something that could work.
That is what sucks about engineering, you can't do it your way. I don't think anybody ever really has, they were just willing to change their ways and be willing to work with what engineering doesn't allow. As things stand, because of wayne's continued insistance of having a working device, I'm thinking elaborate hoax any more.
But do have more serious things to be concerned with than what he and his friends don't understand.

neptune

OK we have only his word on how many people have seen it work. I look forward to Mark Dansie`s prolonged testing . I have no idea on costs, but where patent lawyers are involved I would think The sky is the limit . I would go and have a look myself, but like yourself I have health issues, and I am old and poor . Time will tell.