Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.

[Magluvin]

And after TK's last post, I know these Not's know nothing.

Not insulting you T. Just showing an example of the difficulty of getting the drift of this machine. ;] Its not a 1 day ordeal. ;]


MaGs

[TinselKoala]

And after TK's last post, I know these Not's know nothing.

Not insulting you T. Just showing an example of the difficulty of getting the drift of this machine. ;] Its not a 1 day ordeal. ;]


MaGs

All right then mags... perhaps you understand LarryC's system, and thus MrWayne's, better than I do. (I'll be the first to confess that I don't understand MrWayne's explanations, that is for sure.)

YOU explain to me how is the ratio of input work or energy, to the output work or energy, determined for the three layer system that is clearly overunity itself?

Please tell me what the total input energy is to initiate and sustain a cycle, and what the total output energy is for a complete cycle.

What _numbers_ do you compare, to determine the clearly overunity performance of that three-layer system itself?

Is it the 15 volume units in, and the 30 volume units out? And that is supposed to be one complete cycle back to a starting point so you can do it again.. and again... and again.... gaining 15 volume units each time, and putting it.......

Sigh.

[TinselKoala]

So Mags, it appears that according to you, anyone can claim to have an overunity device, without providing evidence of the claim. I suppose that's true.

And of course, I have a pink invisible unicorn in my back yard, and he's hungry, so I had better go feed him.

What? You don't believe I have this unicorn? Why... because you can't see it? It's INVISIBLE, silly.

[Magluvin]

I can understand why might think this is so, but one should not have quite so much disdain for the "textbooks"

If it were not for these very same "theories and laws" we would not have all the exceptionally powerful and accurate computer simulation code that allows us to analyse and design machines every bit as complex as a ZED is. Simulations that can provide a high degree of confidence that the actual performance will be very close to the predicted. This is proved in a multitude of fields of engineering.

'Theories' are just that, but it so happens these ones have been validated experimentally ad-infinitum and proved mathematically.

We don't  need to get our "hands wet" if someone claims an effect that would break these laws unless they can provide conclusive experimental data that shows it does. No such data has been forthcoming yet so we can be justifiably cautious in believing them.

In addition the mathematical models provided so far are demonstrably incomplete. They do not provide the simple measurements that are required to demonstrate that the energy in vs energy out results in a net gain.

Until that occurs I won'd be wasting time on experiments. I'd rather rely on theory.

I know exactly what you are saying Sea. Exactly.  And if you are well read, then you should know that there are things that we dont know about yet.

Think about it. You are here, for what?  If an OU device can be made, then the books have to be rewritten or added to. 'Or even taken away', like Tesla, substituted with Marconi, Bell, Edison,etc.

Until experimenters figure things out that havnt been figured out yet, by 'experimenting', exploring, taking advantage of individual levels of 'creativity', then we are just stuck with what we got. Same old, same old.  New things are figured out every day.

There just might be a few tricks out there that work if applied. Some ideas are already known by some Im sure. And the tricks that might work, may be complicated, such as Waynes device. So who is to say that anyone around here is going that extra distance into the unknown in order to achieve OU?


A reasonable person would not apply the pressures to claimants of OU devices. Saying that, what kind of persons would? Greedy? Suppression? Impatient? Atheist? What I say to them is piss off. What is your goal here other than to get the daily thrill of delivering some abuse. And for what? We are not on their lawn, or in their house.  Make sense?

Trols are generally not nice people. They will try to degrade your intelligence, or make fun of people that are bad at spelling, and a lot of the time its the same 'worthless' balony every day taking up page after page of nothing to offer except the smell of a used baby wipe. ;]

So whats wrong with sayin "Be Nice or there is the door. Your choice"  ? 

MaGs

[Magluvin]

So Mags, it appears that according to you, anyone can claim to have an overunity device, without providing evidence of the claim. I suppose that's true.

And of course, I have a pink invisible unicorn in my back yard, and he's hungry, so I had better go feed him.

What? You don't believe I have this unicorn? Why... because you can't see it? It's INVISIBLE, silly.

THERES NO UNICORNS YOU IDIOT. PROVE IT MR, NOW!!!!.     

Or, I could say, "sweet, got any pictures?"

I guess some people just dont get it.

Unicorn. How many watts in and out of the unicorn.?  I dont care. lol  ;]

MaGs