Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.

[TinselKoala]

@MrWayne: Is there some design reason that crossheads weren't used in your device? They would eliminate many of the side loads that are wasting power and making noise in your system, I think.

[LarryC]

The Riser's don't float up, they work like a pneumatic cylinder. See the first Picture. The attached drawing show how pneumatic cylinders using the same Psi and dimension replicate the Outer Riser and the next Inner Riser lift force.

Regards, Larry

[see3d]

@see3d: Touched a nerve, did I? Sorry. You are doing just fine, carry on. But I think that the simple three layer system that is clearly overunity by itself would be very interesting to analyze, don't you? I especially would like to know how the clear overunity is determined. Does it run itself indefinitely too?

TK,

Yes, I think it would be interesting to analyze, but first I need to create the tool that makes it easy to understand and analyze it in the way that makes me comfortable.  I make too many clerical errors in my hand calculations to trust any answer I get that way.  I also understand the limitations of small shoestring operations -- having been there and done that several times in my life.  I am looking to be a positive contributor to all this.  It is my nature to be helpful.

[mrwayne]

Well.... can you blame me for being confused? The reservoir is on the bottom, the reservoir is on the top. I only see a reservoir on the bottom, but I'll take your word for it that there are components that aren't being shown.

"The drawing Larry has shown is the dimensions of my unit - do with it what you like."
I am asking for the dimensions and pressures of the simple threelayer system that is clearly overunity by itself. Is that what Larry's drawing represents? How is the clearly overunity performance determined for this threelayer system that is clearly overunity by itself?

This must be an unreasonable question, because nobody is answering it.  But as I said before, I don't think it is unreasonable at all, especially if one is attempting to explain a much more complex and apparently harder to measure system to a tree-dwelling leaf-eating bearlike animal.

Thank you for the name and rating of the generator you are using. I'll be looking up the actual specifications for the unit, like its preferred operating RPM and stuff like that there, just for my own reference purposes. It seems that there is sufficient flow of hot wind around here that I might be able to use a wind generator at home. If you would be so kind as to also specify the part number of the hydraulic motor, that would also be nice.

ETA: You've said, I think,  that the system makes 36 Watts of electrical power over and above that which is needed for the operation of the machine itself. How much is that? I  mean, how much of the generator's 500 Watts rated output at full RPM is actually being generated, and how much goes to running the machine?

The Hydraulic tank is in the upper right corner - barely see it in that shot.(top picture)
The lower Tank you are referring to has a green hose running into it - antifreeze - this is a reservoir but for the draining of the ZEDs during set up and testing. Antifreeze because it has a rust preventative in it - and to prevent the animals from drinking it.

TK, I have great deal of respect for you and others - when my communication does not satisfy the question - it is frustrating - to both of us - and then when you assert I am avoiding the question - we are both put out. I accepted the fact you placed me in your  Idiot file ;-)

To all - my claim has been substantiated long before sharing here - first party second party third party - with simple physics, with complex, with Power, Energy, and Force - and yes - it will require an amendment to the Laws - or an exception will have to be made for "Virtual Mass Utilization" - I really like that virtual comment TK.

I am a very open person, and I do not mind helping someone build a replication.

I am not helping copy my current system- it would be silly anyway - it is the least effective model we have.

If you want that kind of detail - you need to join our engineers - on our side - thank you.

Thank You, and kind regards

Wayne

[mrwayne]

@MrWayne: Is there some design reason that crossheads weren't used in your device? They would eliminate many of the side loads that are wasting power and making noise in your system, I think.

Because I do not know what a cross head is - the noise from our system is the bronze bushing in the Production cylinder - the last set had nylatron/plastic - no noise.
The clanking is both the two main valves clicking - and loose parts clanking.
I will ask my engineers what a cross head is, thanks.

Wayne