Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.

[mondrasek]

Question posed out of honest ignorance:

If an invention is patented, or at least protected by an application.  But during preparations for a reveal to the public an epiphany leads the inventor to realize that one part of the invention can be redesigned into a much simpler construction.  Should he first develop that new simpler construction and file protection on it before the reveal?

To state it another way...  If an invention is revealed, and another party realizes that a portion of the invention can be redesigned much more simply as is not covered by the existing patent (applications), can the other party patent the simpler embodiment of that portion and therefore "bust" the original patent (application) protection by producing/patenting a varient that is "better?" 

i.e.  The better mouse trap?

I'd like to know.

Thanks,

M.

[TinselKoala]

Question posed out of honest ignorance:

If an invention is patented, or at least protected by an application.  But during preparations for a reveal to the public an epiphany leads the inventor to realize that one part of the invention can be redesigned into a much simpler construction.  Should he first develop that new simpler construction and file protection on it before the reveal?

To state it another way...  If an invention is revealed, and another party realizes that a portion of the invention can be redesigned much more simply as is not covered by the existing patent (applications), can the other party patent the simpler embodiment of that portion and therefore "bust" the original patent (application) protection by producing/patenting a varient that is "better?" 

i.e.  The better mouse trap?

I'd like to know.

Thanks,

M.

What you are describing is very much like what Andrea Rossi is discovering. You might like to read the documents surrounding his recent patent application rejection concerning his E-Cat "cold fusion" claims. It's a long read, but there are long excerpts from the rejection document itself that show what kinds of problems one has when one either fails to cite prior art, or doesn't provide sufficient information FOR DUPLICATION OF THE EFFECT by one skilled in the art, or makes changes and modifications after the application is filed.

http://shutdownrossi.com/technology-patents-and-ip/rossis-epo-patent-denied/
http://shutdownrossi.com/certification-licenses-validation-testing/no-certifications-notheory-nopatent-noecat/

[TinselKoala]

I don't think so TK.

Any proof that was not given would be used to say it is false, that would be anything OTHER than full and complete disclosure.

I'm afraid I'm not following you.

If I had a Zed that ran itself, and anyone doubted me, I'd set it up in the middle of a field inside a big plexiglass box, take a backhoe and dig a ten-foot deep trench all around it, set up video cameras streaming over the internet, invite a couple of attorneys and notary publics to witness it, start it up and let it run. And run. And run. The notaries and lawyers would work in shifts, to maintain constant observation. After a week or ten days, I'd start letting people make inquiries about investment opportunities. After a month, I'd start collecting money. Six months, and the Zed-powered factory would be turning out Zeds for domestic and commercial use. After a year, the entire world would be changed. Hopefully for the better.

I'd even hire you and Red_Sunset as salesmen.

Of course, right now.... correct me if I'm wrong....  MrWayne's house is fully powered by his Zed system, and that is proof enough. Isn't it?

[Xaverius]

I get it now, TK.  Bait and switch is a very common tactic of some of these yayhoos.  I contacted Butch LaFonte after the Mylow incident and we agreed that it made no sense why he was doing this hoax.  What do you think is the motivation?  Do some people just get their jollies from lying to people?

Most scams involve money, but the scamsters get your money and then leave town.  They don't hang around internet forums.  Joseph Newman?  What was his scene?  He was on Johnny Carson for crying out loud!

[MileHigh]

Webby1:

get real first, science demands that, get your views and understandings out of the way and think logically,, that is all that is needed.

I could file for patents under what I have learned, but would that be right?

I am not sure exactly what you are implying and I don't want to put words into your mouth.  But at the same time you are clearly convinced and have been for quite a while and seem to be indicating that you can logically explain things.

So, please feel free to explain what you have learned to us and/or make a clip or two if that would suit you.  The only thing that I and many others would request is that you talk in terms of energy or power using standard scientific terminology using whatever unit system you are comfortable with.

For example, "exhaust" won't cut it.  That word has connotations of something like free leftovers.  The truth is that is you are going to "use the exhaust to precharge the next loading cycle," or whatever, what that really means is that you are expending energy from one source and putting it somewhere else.   Just for the sake of argument if you have 50 kilogram-meters of energy stored in the left ZED, then the "exhaust" might in reality be the expenditure of 10 kilogram-meters of energy so that you end up with 40 kilogram-meters in the left ZED and 10 kilogram-meters of energy in the "precharge." (or whatever)

So feel free to give us a step-by-step breakdown of how a ZED system can cycle through one full cycle and export energy and repeat the process indefinitely.  Knowing the energy state of every component in the system for every step would be the ideal.

MileHigh