Petrovoltaic Cells

[ibpointless2]

Petrovoltaic is getting voltage from dielectric material such as rocks, water, and many other materials that are semi-conductive. The idea came from Thomas Townsend Brown here is some of his notes on the Petrovoltaic that I suggest reading. http://www.rexresearch.com/brown4/brown4.htm


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As for why the Petrovoltaic cells thread was placed in the Captret Effect forum is a really long story. It all started when I noticed that you could use the case of a electrolytic capacitor as a lead and get some extra energy from it. I and many others started making many circuits and some of them where self charging the battery and others became ran for longer times then it should have. I wanted to find out why extra energy was in these capacitors and this lead me to make my own capacitors out of water which produce power even when they were not charged up. I spent much time trying to figure out why I got power from just water until one day I came along Thomas Townsend Brown Notes of electricity from rocks. Much of what Brown saw in his cell I saw in mine and have come to find out that the Captret Effect is nothing more than utilizing the effect from Petrovoltaics. Brown in his notes even said that Electrolytic capacitors show Petrovoltaic energy and thus this is why Petrovoltaics is in the Captret Effect forum. I didn't know it at the time of making the water captret that I was seeing the Petrovoltaic effect, but now I know and also know many other dielectrics I can use.

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So this thread is here to talk about the Petrovoltaic effects. I've found that you can use rocks, water, glue, concrete(dry or wet), and many others. The main cause of the Petrovoltaic is from gravity waves but the name Petrovoltaics means solid state voltage. Basically Petrovoltaics cells convert the RF noise of gravity waves into a usable electricity that can do work. I started off not know I was messing with the Petrovoltaic effect but now I know and have seen many of the thing Brown has seen, like cell switching polarities when hooked in series.

The biggest complaint I get is that I'm merely playing with Galvanic cells. Galvanic reaction is a chemical process of getting electricity and has nothing to do with Petrovoltaics. Petrovoltaics is getting electricity form dielectric material and the voltages is affect by gravity waves and lunar phases. Some of the difference between a galvanic cell and a Petrovoltaic cell is that a galvanic cell use two different metals to get a voltage while the Petrovoltaic cell uses only one metal for both electrodes thus both metals are equal but yet a voltage is seen. Galvanic Cells break down and get weaker over time while a Petrovoltaic cell does not hold the power in it but is receiving it so shorting it out does not drain it like a galvanic cell and shorting out a Petrovoltaic cell does not destroy the electrodes but shorting out a galvanic cell eats away at one cell and destroys it. So Petrovoltaic cells are not galvanic.


I've learned many and would love to write it all down at once but I've figured some videos would be better. I'll be posting more on what I learn here.

Here's me doing Townsend Brown experiment with a rock (rock electricity)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gY18yt0ZzM8

Here's a video of a Petrovoltaic Concrete cell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-HfWZACZ68

Using Glue as a dielectric
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEN7SdkE0mk

Update on glue battery, this shows a lot on what types of cells work good.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pDrIjy7dS0

This one puzzles me a little but the glue cell was affected by mass of objects near it. could be the gravity waves or the gravitational field on the mass and the cells are picking it up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch7poA8vmmE

This one shows us a constant voltage of the cell when a quartz is added to the glue
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYt2m6VmD1I

More videos and updates will be coming.

[onthecuttingedge2010]

Petrovoltaic is getting voltage from dielectric material such as rocks, water, and many other materials that are semi-conductive. The idea came from Thomas Townsend Brown here is some of his notes on the Petrovoltaic that I suggest reading. http://www.rexresearch.com/brown4/brown4.htm


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As for why the Petrovoltaic cells thread was placed in the Captret Effect forum is a really long story. It all started when I noticed that you could use the case of a electrolytic capacitor as a lead and get some extra energy from it. I and many others started making many circuits and some of them where self charging the battery and others became ran for longer times then it should have. I wanted to find out why extra energy was in these capacitors and this lead me to make my own capacitors out of water which produce power even when they were not charged up. I spent much time trying to figure out why I got power from just water until one day I came along Thomas Townsend Brown Notes of electricity from rocks. Much of what Brown saw in his cell I saw in mine and have come to find out that the Captret Effect is nothing more than utilizing the effect from Petrovoltaics. Brown in his notes even said that Electrolytic capacitors show Petrovoltaic energy and thus this is why Petrovoltaics is in the Captret Effect forum. I didn't know it at the time of making the water captret that I was seeing the Petrovoltaic effect, but now I know and also know many other dielectrics I can use.

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So this thread is here to talk about the Petrovoltaic effects. I've found that you can use rocks, water, glue, concrete(dry or wet), and many others. The main cause of the Petrovoltaic is from gravity waves but the name Petrovoltaics means solid state voltage. Basically Petrovoltaics cells convert the RF noise of gravity waves into a usable electricity that can do work. I started off not know I was messing with the Petrovoltaic effect but now I know and have seen many of the thing Brown has seen, like cell switching polarities when hooked in series.

The biggest complaint I get is that I'm merely playing with Galvanic cells. Galvanic reaction is a chemical process of getting electricity and has nothing to do with Petrovoltaics. Petrovoltaics is getting electricity form dielectric material and the voltages is affect by gravity waves and lunar phases. Some of the difference between a galvanic cell and a Petrovoltaic cell is that a galvanic cell use two different metals to get a voltage while the Petrovoltaic cell uses only one metal for both electrodes thus both metals are equal but yet a voltage is seen. Galvanic Cells break down and get weaker over time while a Petrovoltaic cell does not hold the power in it but is receiving it so shorting it out does not drain it like a galvanic cell and shorting out a Petrovoltaic cell does not destroy the electrodes but shorting out a galvanic cell eats away at one cell and destroys it. So Petrovoltaic cells are not galvanic.


I've learned many and would love to write it all down at once but I've figured some videos would be better. I'll be posting more on what I learn here.

Here's me doing Townsend Brown experiment with a rock (rock electricity)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gY18yt0ZzM8

Here's a video of a Petrovoltaic Concrete cell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-HfWZACZ68

Using Glue as a dielectric
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEN7SdkE0mk

Update on glue battery, this shows a lot on what types of cells work good.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pDrIjy7dS0

This one puzzles me a little but the glue cell was affected by mass of objects near it. could be the gravity waves or the gravitational field on the mass and the cells are picking it up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch7poA8vmmE

This one shows us a constant voltage of the cell when a quartz is added to the glue
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYt2m6VmD1I

More videos and updates will be coming.

Hi ibpointless2.

I like your experiments, they intrigue me greatly, I am not one to be intrigued like you have done for me, very interesting to say the least. I am greatly excited about the difference in mass differential study when the mass object actually raised the potentiality current, also, I was not aware you were a Mod here, Nice!

anyways, I subscribed and I am following your foot steps just encase I spot something unusual that needs attention.

anyways, I will be doing some hard studies into this but I have to see my daughter off to Pitts-field mass and I need the time to spend with here because it may be years before I see her again.

I am very eager to see what this results into, If I can find a way to greatly enhance this effect. Oh, just by curiosity, have you tried Elmer's 'wood' glue to see if there is a difference in potentiality?

from one scientist to another, cheers! you have found something good to share and trust.

listen up folks, there is something really weird about this, I can say, I believe the effect is real.

I can say I am not easily intrigued in the least but ibpointless2 has severely intrigued me.

Sincerely your friend and subscriber.
Jerry

[ibpointless2]

"Attempting to isolate the petrovoltaic effect from other known phenomena such as piezoelectric, thermoelectric, or pyroelectric phenomena, Townsend Brown shielded his "sensors," consisting of natural rock specimens or manufactured materials, materials from electrostatic, thermal, humidic, and radiation effects. However, the electrical potentials remained, albeit at lower values, and more interestingly, the cyclical nature of the potential was still present." http://www.qualight.com/petro/

Brown try to eliminate all the other factors that could power these cells and found out that when you removed these effects the power was still alive in the material. When all the other values are removed a potential stayed in the cell at a lower potential thus shows that not only is it getting its power from the Petrovoltaic effect but from all other forums of heat, light, and other RF waves. This goes to show that heat, light, sound, and gravity waves are one in the same; they must be all electromagnetic in some way and these electromagnetic waves are picked up and stored inside these dielectric material. A Petrovoltaic cell could be a wide range RF antenna able to pick up the full or part of the electromagnetic radiation that surrounds us constantly.
Once again this is just my theory.

[ibpointless2]

This insert is showing that solar or light was a force that could act on the cells.

"From 1931 to 1933, the author conducted research at the Naval Research Laboratory (Bellevue,
Washington, D.C.) on the "Anomalous Behavior of Massive High-K Dielectrics." During this
time, evidence was obtained which revealed that the electrical resistivity of certain high-density
dielectrics undergoes solar and sidereal diurnal changes. The results were completely unexpected."
http://www.rafoeg.de/20,Dokumentenarchiv/10,Personenbezogenes_Archiv/,Brown_Thomas_Townsend/ELECTRICAL%20SELF-POTENTIAL%20IN%20ROCKS.PDF



So the more light it got the more conductive the material got thus resulting in some cell to produce more voltage when given light.

[Dave45]

It would be interesting to put your samples in the core of an inductor and see how the magnetic field affects them.