Overbalancing wheel

[WilbyInebriated]

The sun and the moon are so far away that their gravity is as weak as a sheet of paper on us humans.

first you say the gravity of the sun and moon are as "weak as a sheet of paper on us"... and then you say:

On a bigger scale the tidal forces in the sea is the only useable gravity powered machine we know of.

so which is it? is the gravity of the sun and moon as weak as a sheet of paper? or is it strong enough to influence billions of tons of water and create tides?... i also find it strange that this "WEAK AS A SHEET OF PAPER" force of gravity that the moon places on us also distorts the earth's crust by centimeters to meters.

[onthecuttingedge2005]

g = 9.81 m/s2 = 32.2 ft/s2

the earth's gravity is pulling us toward the center of the earth at 32.2 ft/s2 even if we are standing still on a surface. those this figure is not a true constant because the gravitational pull is different all around the world, but it is a given figure for doing formulas.

angular gravitational off balancing would be far far slower than a body falling straight down.

Jerry

[Low-Q]

first you say the gravity of the sun and moon are as "weak as a sheet of paper on us"... and then you say:so which is it? is the gravity of the sun and moon as weak as a sheet of paper? or is it strong enough to influence billions of tons of water and create tides?... i also find it strange that this "WEAK AS A SHEET OF PAPER" force of gravity that the moon places on us also distorts the earth's crust by centimeters to meters.

To the human body, the pull is similar to a sheet of paper. The sea have a much greater pull because of its relatively MUCH greater mass than the human body. Another thing is that the sea covers most of the earth, and therfor it is able to start oscillating with a tidal wave that travels at approx 1000mph at equator. The tidal wave is greatest towards the moon and 180 degrees behind.

A gravity powered device that weights a few hundred pounds, will therefor not be affected by the moon or the sun in any useable way. Even though the gravity isn't equal on all places on earth, the gravity is pretty much constant, and can therfor not be able to provide energy.

The same applies to magnetism. An AC transformer, need an AC current in order to transfer energy into the secondary coil. Feed the transformer with pure DC current, and nothing happens except when it's connected and disconnected (AC). Alternating forces can do work. A conservative force can't.

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[WilbyInebriated]

To the human body, the pull is similar to a sheet of paper. The sea have a much greater pull because of its relatively MUCH greater mass than the human body. Another thing is that the sea covers most of the earth, and therfor it is able to start oscillating with a tidal wave that travels at approx 1000mph at equator. The tidal wave is greatest towards the moon and 180 degrees behind.

so what are you saying now? that the ocean's mass and by proxy its gravity are the cause of tidal surges?? i think you have it backwards now... look lowq, i know how the tides work, hell, i even include the sun's gravitational effect on the tides, but you didn't answer my direct question at all. i'll repeat it. "which is it?"

A gravity powered device that weights a few hundred pounds, will therefor not be affected by the moon or the sun in any useable way. Even though the gravity isn't equal on all placed on earth, the gravity is pretty much constant, and can therfor not be able to provide energy.

tides... hello?  anybody home?

[Low-Q]

so what are you saying now? that the ocean's mass and by proxy its gravity are the cause of tidal surges?? i think you have it backwards now... look lowq, i know how the tides work, hell, i even include the sun's gravitational effect on the tides, but you didn't answer my direct question at all. i'll repeat it. "which is it?"
tides... hello?  anybody home?

No, I'm not home. I'm at work

Ofcourse the sun also provide tidal forces. When the tides are highest is when the moon and the sun "cooperates" most efficiently. We call in "springflo" in Norwegian, but google translate couldn't find good translations other than "tides" for this phenomenon.

I apologize for any bad english. What I think in my head, do not always come out properly in english... I'm an engineer, not an English teacher

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