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PhysicsProf Steven E. Jones circuit shows 8x overunity ?

Started by JouleSeeker, May 19, 2011, 11:21:55 PM

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jbignes5

 Ok let me explain then.

2-12 volt in parallel(12v) and 2-12 volt in series(24v).

The common (-) of each pair are connected together. Now using a voltage meter measure the difference of the positive terminals and you will read 12 volts. When you hook up a 12 volt load between the two positive terminals it will operate normally and charge the parallel set of batteries while draining the series pair of batteries. This is because you are using 12 volts for the load and maintaining the parallel set of batteries from the left over 12 volts of the series.

In order to not drain the 24 volt set you need to swap them into a parallel set of 12 volts while swapping the old parallel set into a new series set. This reverses the flow and then recharges the old 24 volts set. Thats only one cycle. The need for the diodes is to make it so it isn't a shorting condition while swapping the series to parallel and vise versa. The swapping has been tried with mechanical relays but they never last that long, about 2 weeks before the contacts wear out. The other mechanical way is to use a contact wheel which was done successfully by a company that way given the design and that had tested it for over 3 years constantly. The last way is to use silicon latching transistors, I believe, and that was Ronald Brandt.

With the story of Ronald Brandt there come many many reports of strange events happening while the system was used in an electric vehicle. These reports varied from the batteries changing and not being able to take a normal charge to weird fields being setup around the vehicle, kinda like a dampening field that even effected people or metal objects around the vehicle.

As to the validity of these claims I can not attest to. There are a great many rumors surrounding that method. Why I don't know for sure. But it appears it is one reason why Ronald Brandt could not get the vehicle patented and released.

Here is a link to a pdf of most of the systems out there: http://www.panaceauniversity.org/Tesla%20Switch.pdf

JouleSeeker

  Ah, I'm understanding now; thanks jbignes5.

It is intriguing that the Adams, RomeroUK, Bedini etc. motors MAY have as the common key, the switching itself and the use of batteries as we see in the Tesla switch.   ???   

  So where is Matt Jones posting mostly now?  and does he post at OU?  and is there a Yahoo group on this device?

Thanks guys!  Truly enlightening.

jbignes5

Quote from: JouleSeeker on September 12, 2011, 05:38:25 PM
  Ah, I'm understanding now; thanks jbignes5.

It is intriguing that the Adams, RomeroUK, Bedini etc. motors MAY have as the common key, the switching itself and the use of batteries as we see in the Tesla switch.   ???   

  So where is Matt Jones posting mostly now?  and does he post at OU?  and is there a Yahoo group on this device?

Thanks guys!  Truly enlightening.

Mathew Jones is posting mostly at energeticforum.com. I don't frequent that place anymore because it is ran by a person that is only out to make money from the membership(fellow researchers). He is a sales person trained by college. He also is part owner in a heath products store and is another reason I find the site rather lame.

I don't know if he is posting here or has a yahoo group Sorry about that.

nul-points

Steven

i can't help with any b/g on Matt either - i just found that thread after following up on Hope's mention of developments on the EF forum (i knew about the general 'Tesla Switch' concept previously)


attached below is the data for the first week continuous run of the SJ1 inverted looped variant with 2 serial NiMH supply charging 2 parallel NiMH (and driving an LED)

blue graph is the Vb for the 2 parallel charging NiMHs

red and yellow graphs are the Vb readings for the 2 serial supply NiMHs

i've just swapped the supply cells for the charging cells, so then it's another waiting-game to see if this technique does what it says on the tin (i haven't seen any data presented previously to support OU claims for a Tesla Switch)

thanks
np


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JouleSeeker

Quote from: nul-points on September 12, 2011, 07:17:38 PM
Steven

i can't help with any b/g on Matt either - i just found that thread after following up on Hope's mention of developments on the EF forum (i knew about the general 'Tesla Switch' concept previously)


attached below is the data for the first week continuous run of the SJ1 inverted looped variant with 2 serial NiMH supply charging 2 parallel NiMH (and driving an LED)

blue graph is the Vb for the 2 parallel charging NiMHs

red and yellow graphs are the Vb readings for the 2 serial supply NiMHs

i've just swapped the supply cells for the charging cells, so then it's another waiting-game to see if this technique does what it says on the tin (i haven't seen any data presented previously to support OU claims for a Tesla Switch)

thanks
np


http://docsfreelunch.blogspot.com

You're right to go after solid data, NP -- thanks for pointing us back to the need for hard physical evidence.

At energeticF, Matt today wrote:

QuoteThats because I haven't given the instructions out yet... Just a shopping list of parts.

Its all coming.

Matt

   Not saying he is "wrong", just that the instructions are not given out yet, and data is sparse IMO...
Interesting approach, though -- and I'm glad to see that you're trying out a variation experimentally, NP!   
Some are using a motor-driven switch, from what I've seen.  (Still haven't found Matt's actual vid)  Going with a solid-state switch may be more difficult, but should be the goal of a working device IMO -- to improve the reliability and hopefully reduce the cost.