PhysicsProf Steven E. Jones circuit shows 8x overunity ?

[Shadesz]

Sorry to distract. I have noticed some smart brained folks on this and the Gabriel thread. I was wondering if you guys could review this post I made about the Muller/Romero/Adams style generators. I am mostly looking for information about phase shifting... feel free to post on that thread or the Muller thread @ this forum. Thanks in advance.

http://www.energeticforum.com/157895-post1765.html

[JouleSeeker]

Sorry to distract. I have noticed some smart brained folks on this and the Gabriel thread. I was wondering if you guys could review this post I made about the Muller/Romero/Adams style generators. I am mostly looking for information about phase shifting... feel free to post on that thread or the Muller thread @ this forum. Thanks in advance.

http://www.energeticforum.com/157895-post1765.html

Your post makes a lot of sense to me, David...  Several have been thinking along similar lines, I think, but you expressed it very clearly and cogently.
::cheers::

[NerzhDishual]

Hi Ou dot Com people,

Hey! I had my 'name' quoted by the very Prof. Steven Jones himself... I do not deserve such considerations.

BTW: Prof S. Jones, as you must know about it, articles propositions in magazines are just propositions.  It could change. But, who knows? In another issue, perhaps?
This was a private message. Anyway, thanks.

I'm just a lazy experimenter. I'm just also lost in this thread.

Anyway? Should we were at it...
Did Nul-point-the-misnomer(d?) tell about his charge conservation anomaly experiments? I made some similar experiments, with a kinda Joule Thief. We are not the only ones. See JL Naudin for ex.

Yes, non charge conservation. Just impossible. Something must be wrong somewhere. Sorry for disturbing.

Else: with a mere Joule Thief, I made some experiments.
I measured (with a black pipe) and a luxmeter some LUXs out given by 9 LEDs. I used a cheap 2 Euros 'torch'.

Unfortunately, as a bl' f' non scientist, I'm not able to convert LUXs to watts. Is it possible? I bet it is.

I just can say that my measurements were something like:

With 3 (exhausted) AAA  bats. Input (under load) = 4 volts * 150ma.  LUXs out: about 240.
With a simple Joule thief and a single (strong) AAA bat: 1.5 volts (under load) * 12 ma. LUXs out about 120.

Now, first case.
IN = 4 * 150 = 2400 mW
OUT LUX = 240.
So, for one LUX you have to give 2400/240 = 10 mW

Joule Thief case:
IN = 1.5 * 12 = 18 mW. Saying 20 mW
OUT LUX = 120.
So, for one LUX you have to give 20/120 = 0.17 mW. Saying O.20 mW

20/0.20 = 100! Or I'm I missing something?

Please note that my Joule Thief is just from a lazy experimenter.

Very Best

[nul-points]

[...]
I'm just a lazy experimenter
[...]
IN = 4 * 150 = 2400 mW
[...]
So, for one [DC] LUX you have to give 2400/240 = 10 mW

[...]
So, for one [JT] LUX you have to give 20/120 = 0.17 mW. Saying O.20 mW

20/0.20 = 100! Or I'm I missing something?
[...]
Very Best

mr Dishual, usually i'd say that 'lazy' would be the last word to describe your very thorough replications

if one were to look for a word to describe a Breton musical-scientific-mariner then perhaps the word 'relaxed' would spring to mind 

however...

"4*150 = 2400"  ?!?

and

"10 mW ['IF' 4 * 150 = 2400 ] divided by 0.20" = "20 / 0.20"  ?!?

this is scientific music which is new to me!


please may i have a glass of whatever you're drinking 

very best regards from little big Bretagne

[tagor]

Unfortunately, as a bl' f' non scientist, I'm not able to convert LUXs to watts. Is it possible? I bet it is.

Pour "convertir" le flux lumineux (en lumen) en flux de puissance (en W) il faut que vous connaissiez l'efficacité lumineuse de votre source lumineuse (en général notée "k") ...

pour une lampe à incandescence classique k vaut de 8 à 13 lm.
pour un halogène k vaut environ 15 lm.
et pour un tube fluorescent k vaut de 40 à 100 lm.


PS :
sorry it is in french