PhysicsProf Steven E. Jones circuit shows 8x overunity ?

[nul-points]

A thermistor bridge detector operates with a swing > 1mV/C.  the Johnson noise of the resistor is in the uV.

assumptions based on typical values have their place

i believe that the exercise in which we have just been engaged, however, was to justify confidence in actual data by additional measurements (of the measuring tools themselves)

My goals are to see clean experiments.  I try to help in that direction where I can.

altruism is a great gift, and sadly in short supply these days, it seems

i'm sure that everyone here is as grateful for your dedication and integrity as i am

[MarkE]

assumptions based on typical values have their place

i believe that the exercise in which we have just been engaged, however, was to justify confidence in actual data by additional measurements (of the measuring tools themselves)

The tool in this case is the combination of the sensor and the signal conditioner / DAQ.  So far things look reasonably good with respect to measured 0.2F excursions being actual temperatures and not artifacts of the probe + DAQ.

altruism is a great gift, and sadly in short supply these days, it seems

i'm sure that everyone here is as grateful for your dedication and integrity as i am

Some are.  Others express suspicions of ulterior motives.

[nul-points]

interesting - paranoia just the other side of the coin from being realistic?

i'm not sure how much more i'll be able to do now for a few days - i have a run of social commitments into the weekend

[MarkE]

interesting - paranoia just the other side of the coin from being realistic?

i'm not sure how much more i'll be able to do now for a few days - i have a run of social commitments into the weekend

Lots of people have strange ideas.
There is no rush on my account.  I encourage you to perform the still air test using the pair of cups if you are willing.  I don't expect to see much if any difference from the fixed 5K resistor test.

[JouleSeeker]

hello Steven and NerzhDishual

apologies for the long gaps in posting - i am continuing to investigate and log behaviour of related ccts

current tests are looking at 2 pulse ccts, with energy being returned both to their own sources (battery) and to each others - efficiency is high but currently still less than unity

i thought that you guys might be interested in the attached data

prompted by reading a 'paper' recently, describing the possibility of 'inverted population' action when magnetizing the core of a coil, and which suggested that there will be some evidence of energy flow into the core due to negentropic action, i started measuring the temperature inside the inner gap of the toroid compared with the temperature a little distance away from the toroid

the data is showing a definite drop in average temperature within the toroid (measured with two different probes and monitor devices)

the attached data is rather weird in that the temperature readings appear to be 'frequency modulated'!

it is unlikely that the cyclic nature of the temperature data is EMF pickup from the pulse circuit, since the pulse rate is approx 1 Hz and the temperature cycles recorded are many times slower than that (and indeed vary quite significantly themselves, depending on probe location)

data for 'ambient' temperature, as recorded inside one of the monitor cases, is by contrast very flat, increasing slowly from approx 21.25 to 21.5 degC throughout the period of data shown


i've normalised the graph data against the ambient temperature readings, referenced to a representative 21 degC baseline

the graph data represents temperature readings in degC against elapsed time in seconds - the probe was located initially inside the toroid for approx 5 mins, then it was relocated approx 10cms away from the toroid for approx 5 mins, then finally the probe was replaced back inside the toroid

it can be seen that the average temperature is lower within the central gap of the toroid than further away, and also that there is a cyclic nature to the temperature readings which changes significantly in frequency depending on probe location


interesting?

all the best
np


[edited to clarify direction of entropy change]

NP -- I too am having gaps in posting -- apologies on my side also.

Fascinating data --

the data is showing a definite drop in average temperature within the toroid (measured with two different probes and monitor devices)

the attached data is rather weird in that the temperature readings appear to be 'frequency modulated'!

it is unlikely that the cyclic nature of the temperature data is EMF pickup from the pulse circuit, since the pulse rate is approx 1 Hz and the temperature cycles recorded are many times slower than that (and indeed vary quite significantly themselves, depending on probe location)

data for 'ambient' temperature, as recorded inside one of the monitor cases, is by contrast very flat, increasing slowly from approx 21.25 to 21.5 degC throughout the period of data shown

I very much look forward to your further work!
I'm traveling by car today and tomorrow, so no computer contact likely for a while.

Thanks to earlier posts re: magnetic clamping, folks - lots of fun stuff there too.
--Steve