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Trawoeer Power Pyramid Version 12 - Electrical output from a homemade pyramid

Started by hartiberlin, June 28, 2011, 04:05:30 PM

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RedBaron

For everyone else; try your pyramids off the ground. Put it on a table or a frame of some sort like TT has it sitting on.

Has anyone considered "The Great Pyramid is the only pyramid to have chambers above ground level." His initial project was to replicate the Great Pyramid if I remember correctly. Did he or anyone else considered that the other 100s of pyramids on earth have no chambers above ground level. Maybe TT's pyramid is producing power below the pyramid but producing enough that he is getting lucky and picking up a small ratio of it in the middle of the pyramid? Possibly if the electronics were below the pyramid, it may work better?

We also need to consider environment in the big picture. What is the relationship to sea level, IE is your pyramid below sea level or above and how far above? what is relationship to major water sources, what is your physical locations relationship to the equator? I believe these will all have an effect on the output. It may not stop the show but it may decrease by a percentage or increase by a percentage... or they may not.




Void

Quote from: k4zep on September 21, 2011, 11:52:11 AM
Lets go back to a little bit of basic theory.  Simple ohms law.  The series DC resistance of the double coils, internal and external that connect to the Capacitor are approximately 1 ohm.  I'm rounding off here to make calculations easy.  Now in the outdoor video part 2 @ 5:51 the Model power meter shows  approximately 7.80 VDC @ .35 amps into a load @ 2.7 watts.  As this is a series circuit, the coils/power source and the motor load, we know that across the RESISTANCE of the coils X the series DC current,  we would only show .35 VDC across that portion of the circuit but the nice little voltmeter in the unit is showing 7.8 VCE!!!!!.  Something is rotten here.  We have a circuit that simply can not work as shown.  I highly suspect that there are rechargeable batteries in the "Reactor" for many reasons.

A few comments on the circuit. The equivalent electric circuit of the TTP v12 circuit is
not a series circuit, it is a parallel LC tank  circuit, and the electric fan motor (load) is
connected in parallel to the parallel LC tank circuit. Someone already posted an
equivalent circuit drawing previously, but I have attached the relevant part of that drawing again,
slightly modified, showing that this is a parallel LC tank circuit (with possibly some unknown
energy/signal input or interaction from the charged/aligned quartz sand and copper tube
components located at the focal point of the pyramid).

If you supply a DC pulse to a parallel tank circuit, it will not give you a clean DC pulse out,
but will actually give you a damped ringing waveform. Such a repeating damped ringing
waveform can be seen in TT's oscilloscope video, with some other signals showing in there
to a lesser extent as well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2HZSNitxVk

[Note added later:] From the looks of the oscilloscope waveform, it looks like the
LC tank circuit is being excited somehow with repetitive pulses with associated damped ringing oscillations
from the LC tank circuit following each pulse, and from time to time you can see what appears to
possibly be a brief larger pulse with oscillations on the scope as well. There also appear to be much smaller
and shorter duration pulses occuring at a higher frequency superimposed on the damped ringing oscillations.
I can't tell what the scope time base setting is from looking at the video, so I don't know what the frequency of the
pulses might be, and the frequency of the assiciated damped ringing oscillations, etc.,  might be.
Also, because the scope can be set various ways, it is hard to know if there is a DC component to
to this signal or not (I can't tell where the scope 0 volts level line is set to, or whether DC blocking
in enabled on the scope or not).

If this is a hoax, then it is possible that TT could be secretly feeding this circuit with a continuous pulse train
or other signal; but, if not a hoax, then this is very interesting to be sure. Would be interested to know what
frequency those pulses are occurring at for starters. This could be determined from the scope
if the time base setting on the scope was known.

If a given circuit is not generating pure DC or a pure 50 or 60 Hz sinewave AC signal, then a typical
multimeter will not give very meaningful readings other than to possibly indicate that there is
some sort of voltage and current waveform present. Actual voltage and current reading numbers would
not be meaningful in such a case however. Based on the waveforms shown in TT's oscilloscope
video, a person would definitely want to be using an oscilloscope to make any meaningful
voltage measurements of the TTP v12 circuit.

As to whether this is just a hoax or not, anything is possible.
I don't know TT and have never communicated with him, and I don't know
what communications may have gone on between TT and others in private,
but there could be many reasons why he stopped publicly communicating with people
about his TTP v12 project. He may have got fed up with many people emailing and
phoning him and asking so many questions, etc., even though he made it clear he
didn't want people to contact him directly unless invited, or he may have had personal
problems or other demands arise,  or he could have been made a financial offer that he just couldn't
refuse  :), etc., etc. Unless someone has some real evidence that this is just a hoax,
then I personally wouldn't be too quick to jump to any conclusions anyway. TT certainly
seemed sincere enough in his videos.

I would be willing to give this a go if I can get my hands on the exact 'reactor' components
so as to be able to duplicate the 'reactor' exactly as shown in the step by step video. I searched
for those exact reducer brass end caps on the web and couldn't find anything even close however.
That would appear to be a show stopper as this circuit appears to be very finicky at best and
a replication attempt would likely need to follow the original design shown in the video very exactly.

Happy experimenting everyone....  :)


Void

By the way, if anyone out there in Europe knows where to get those exact brass
fittings that TT is using in his TTP v12 tutorial videos, if you can let me know I would
appreciate it.  The brass fitting appears to have a hex nut on the outside of the wide
end with threads on the inside of the wide end, and which goes down to a much
smaller diameter brass tube fitting on the other end. The wide end inner diameter
would likely be in the 28mm to 30mm diameter range, and the narrow end inner
diameter would have to be around 10mm or so, since the wide and narrow copper
pipes can fit into these holes. TT indicated that these brass fittings should be readily available
in plumbing stores (at least in Austria), but I would guess that this should also be so for
other European countries as well. If anyone knows where these brass fittings can be obtained from,
I would appreciate hearing from you. :) I am interested in building this to experiement with,
but it seems TT indicated that he tried it and couldn't get it working without those brass
end caps.







Dom Tesla

Where the f*** is mr trawöger?!? How can somebody make a project open source and not respond to anything regarding his project.... What is wrong with you Thomas.... If it was fraud, just admit.... at least people will stop wasting their time... If it is not... and you got those good intentions, Tommy, why dont you help? ha? Its just like the first pyramid.... ?  So far you s*** , man - Probably just made this whole thing up too feed your deteriorating ego....

This threat should be closed, to save all you inspired souls from the penalty of failing, trying to reproduce something wich never worked in the beginning....

You are fake T.T. as fake as one could be.... your even worse than those goverment agents....

I got to admit.... this post is really rude, but just think about all those wasted hours all you guys spent...

Free-Dom

Indeed that's a very interesting device.
And it doesn't seem to me like a fake - too bad that Mr. Trawöger isn't available.
So nobody except him has ever managed to build this one?
I would be very interested, in building such a device too, but unforutnately I've absolute no knowledge in electrical engineering...