Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect

[CRANKYpants]

This video was first presented in 2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USnDxqslfyA

1) NO LOAD PRIME MOVER INPUT = 1.85 A @ 80 volts, 3216 RPM
A) (which is a function of prime mover efficiency, core quality, coil output optimization/design)
B) (core quality/hysterisis losses apply in ALL permanent magnet generators whereas NONE accelerate themselves when a load is applied).

2) INFINITE LOAD PRIME MOVER INPUT 1.53 A @80 volts, 3330 RPM

You can hear the rotor accelerate so I have REGENERATIVE "acceleration" WHICH IS INCREASING THE SPEED AND INERTIA IN THE SYSTEM - WITH NO EXTRA ADDED INPUT POWER IN FACT THERE IS ACTUALLY AN ENERGY DECREASE WHICH IS A VIOLATION OF THE WORK ENERGY PRINCIPLE. YEAH! 

This is a valid test of among many that have been released, conforming to the information you have released. Ron

NICE WORK RON! - IF YOU UPGRADE YOUR COIL DESIGN (AS I MENTIONED EARLIER IN THIS THREAD) YOU CAN GET MORE THAN 50 WATTS OUTPUT... AND YOU CAN KEEP ADDING COILS AND CREATING ACCELERATION AT INFINITUM.

As an aside, I did work with Thane in those days and built two rotors for him. He paid me more than I asked so I have no axe to grind PERHAPS A KNIFE IN THE BACK BUT DEFINATELY NO AXE - WAY TOO MESSY

CHEERS
T

[hoptoad]

1) NO LOAD PRIME MOVER INPUT = 1.85 A @ 80 volts, 3216 RPM
A) (which is a function of prime mover efficiency, core quality, coil output optimization/design)
B) (core quality/hysterisis losses apply in ALL permanent magnet generators whereas NONE accelerate themselves when a load is applied).

snip...

C)  : baseline, no coil/core, 1.2A @ 80 volts AC  (input) 3419 RPM
Oh that's right, C can't be attributed to your data because you don't do baseline measurements for total system efficiency analysis.

[Jack Noskills]

Results do not show what is the power created by the coil so a bit unfair comparison. Also what is the effect when adding coils if one coil has positive effect ?
Anyway, effect has been confirmed by 3rd party so makes no sense to argue about it. I am interested in making it better, I am engineer so always want to improve things. Drives the wife nuts sometimes.

What is your opinion about running the magnets inside toroid made of high perm material ? If iron has u about 5000, and you replace that with core that has u of 450000 then that should give a boost to output load.
If toroid is used then there would be no drag as the magnetic is vertical and the creating field is horizontal. Well maybe magnets would attract to core but enough airgap should reduce this effect.
This does not give you adding of torgue, but would create power without drag. And if you apply Thane's back EMF aplification in the toroid coils you would get double output.

I would add iron shield between the magnet and coil, in fact better to make this shield from iron wire and use it as a coil so that it goes around the HV coil, or just smaller coil that is between magnet and HV coil. For example air core toroid of iron wire and HV coils inside or outside if smaller toroid is preferred. You would then get power out from the shield coil also and no drag. If voltage matches the HV coil you can connect it in parallel, otherwise you can connect it in series with HV coil.
Am I making any sense to anyone, what is your opinion about this setup ?

[Overunityguide]

CHECK OUT THE KINETIC ENERGY GENERATING SYSTEM BIKE PROJECT WHICH IS CURRENTLY BEING BUILT TO PROVIDE MOTIVE POWER WITH NO EXTERNAL SOURCE OF POWER.

CHEERS
T

Dear Thane,

I would love to see anyone spinning on your ‘Kinetic Energy Generating Bike’ in the near future. For me there is no doubt that the regenerative acceleration effect exists and that it can be used in real world applications in the future.

Maybe what you can do when you have finished the Kinetic Bike, is to let any of the critics spin around on it and let them accelerate until they are crapping their pants.

With Kind Regards, Overunityguide

For Information about the Confirmation of the Negative Lenz Effect:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzxc3Ai4T3A

[CRANKYpants]

C)  : baseline, no coil/core, 1.2A @ 80 volts AC  (input) 3419 RPM

Oh that's right, C can't be attributed to your data because WITHOUT CORES ITS NOT A GENERATOR IT IS JUST A ROUND THING ROTATING IN THIN AIR...

AND BECAUSE ALL GENERATORS IN THIS CONTEXT HAVE:

1) WIRE AND WIRE RESISTANCE
2) BEARINGS AND BEARING RESISTANCE
3) CORES AND CORE RESISTANCE

BUT IF YOU ARE SINCERE AND YOU COMPARE APPLES TO APPLES I.E TWO IDENTICAL GENERATORS ON NO LOAD WITH:

4) THE SAME DRIVE SHAFT AT THE SAME RPM WITH THE SAME DRIVE SHAFT TORQUE SUPPLIED BY THE SAME PRIME MOVER BE IT AN ELECTRIC MOTOR, GAS OR DIESEL ENGINE, WIND, STEAM, WATER, DONKEY, GERBILS OR WHATEVER AS PDI HAS DONE. (SEE OTTAWA UNIVERSITY VIDEO BELOW)

5) THE CONVENTIONAL (REGENERATIVE BRAKING) GENERATOR WILL DECELERATE THE SYSTEM WHEN PLACED ON LOAD. AND THE GREATER THE LOAD THE FASTER THE RATE OF DECELERATION.

6) THE REGENERATIVE ACCELERATION GENERATOR WILL ACCELERATE THE SYSTEM WHEN PLACED ON LOAD AND THE GREATER THE LOAD THE FASTER THE RATE OF ACCELERATION.

7) THE REGENERATIVE ACCELERATION GENERATOR COIL WILL EVEN ACCELERATE WHEN THE LOAD IS ALMOST 7 TIMES GREATER THAN THE CONVENTIONAL LOAD AND

THE REGENERATIVE ACCELERATION GENERATOR WILL ALSO ACCELERATE THROUGH THE DECELERATION CAUSED BY THE CONVENTIONAL COIL AS SHOWN HERE WITH A PERFORMANCE ADVANTAGE THAT EXCEEDS 500%: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3JVjbXOssQ

CHEERS
T

Thane C. Heins
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