Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect

[toranarod]

@teslaalset
I appreciate that you are willing to help. I really want to understand everyting I get intrested in in detail.

I think we booth was thinking of a capacitor bank in series with a coil.
In that case I understand that the phase shift can be max 90 deg and min 0 deg with a large capacitor bank (voltage in the generator coil is 180 deg compared to a solenoid).

But what if the capacitor is in parallel with the coil?
In this case, the voltage in the coil is clamped to the voltage in the capacitor.
If the impedance in the coil and capacitor is equal, the resulting phase shift is 0.
If the impedance of the capacitor is much larger than the coil, the current is 90 deg before voltage.
Any opinion on this?

In my mind, it is some basic configurations that produce phase shift (of current and thus flux in coil). I think it is possible to combine two of them or possibly only use one of them in combination with disconnet/short the coil for a part of the wave, by switching.  This is my goal, to really understand how diffrent setups impacts the phase shift in the generator coil.

My opinion is 0 may be the best you can hope for . this is why I think a dead short works 0 volts current at Max. If Only you could make a coil behave like a capacitor wouldn't that be great. I have tried many combinations of capacitors at frequencies. I never seen it affect Lenz drag. 
good work. please keep on going if you find something I would love to know.
   

[gotoluc]

Hello Overunityguide and everyone,

I have had my eye on your topic for a few days now and I find you're doing an excellent job.

It coincides that I have lately been thinking of applying what I personally learned while working with Thane Heins at the Ottawa University a few years back. I'm now considering of re-testing with new core material and biasing magnets.

I'm mostly thinking of applying this. A little over a year ago a researcher posted a
YouTube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuzSkKlnCzc
and also shared his findings at this
Forum: http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=399801

What he found was that a coil wound on a Finemet toroid (nanocrystaline) core would increase in Inductance as much as 3 time when approached to a magnet (up to a certain point)

I do have 2 of theses Finemet toroids and will soon be confirming his findings.

The idea here (if this information is correct) would be to use Finemet as core material on Thane's delayed Lenz coil technique. This would give a huge advantage as we could achieve higher than expected Inductance using minimal wire lengths since High Inductance is the Key factor to Thane's coil effect. The benefit to use less wire is cost but more important is that Thane later found reducing coil resistance boosted the coil current output.

I will soon post my findings.

Great work there toranarod! I have also been following your research and progress for some time.

Thanks for sharing

Luc

Hi everyone,

for anyone interested, I started a topic with a video demo on testing what I have posted above.

Link to topic: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=11377.new#new

Luc

[gotoluc]

Double post

[teslaalset]

Ok, a bit late, but I've got some simulations examples.
I'll start with some basics, I need a bit more time to work on the RLC ciruit sims.

Three attachements:
1) basic setup: one coil, no solid core, just air, rotor with 8 disc magnets all facing North upwards. RPM = 3750, meaning that with 8 rotor magnets freq=500 Hz, T=2ms.
2) flux and current at 100 ohm load. 4, 6 and 8 ms is at TDC (Top Dead Center, magnet center exactly at coil center)
3) flux and current at 1 ohm load, also here 4, 6 and 8 ms at TDC

You'll notice that the 100 ohm version has an almost symmetrical value around TDC.
This means that forces on the rotor will allmost ballance out (sum of the pull moments is equal to the sum of the push moments), but the forces are also small due to the limited amplitude in current caused by the 100 ohm.

For the 1 ohm sorted coil situation is quite different, showing the phase shift of the current.
The delay of the current also causes the total flux to be delayed (Total flux= magnet flux + coil flux)
Here you can notice that the peak of the current is before TDC, causing some extra drag to the rotor), since the amplitude of the current is significantly higher.

[Kator01]

Folks,

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Regards

Kator01