Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect

[Magluvin]

Magluvin:

Of course it actually would be easy to do do separate tests.  All that you need is a multimeter set to read current and preferably a variable-voltage power supply.

Putting them in parallel is no good.   By the same token, their resistances are probably so close in value that putting them in parallel would probably work and show the same field strength.  The point is that you should be aware that you don't want to do this.

MileHigh

Hmm. I dont get it. The site does not require or state any current differences or equalities between the 2 different coils.

What is stated is that the bifi has more magnetic pull than the singlefi. But it appears the argument here is the current draw differences. Well putting them in series is a flawed test of that being that the current will be the same in series.

And parallel would be a good test as each coil will have its own ability to do with that voltage presence introduced to its leads as it will, without the influence of the others.

You guys know better than that.

Mags

[synchro1]

I denied ever having performed the test!

[Farmhand]

Hmm. I dont get it. The site does not require or state any current differences or equalities between the 2 different coils.

What is stated is that the bifi has more magnetic pull than the singlefi. But it appears the argument here is the current draw differences. Well putting them in series is a flawed test of that being that the current will be the same in series.

And parallel would be a good test as each coil will have its own ability to do with that voltage presence introduced to its leads as it will, without the influence of the others.

You guys know better than that.

Mags

Do you dispute that if the coils have the same total wire length and the same wire gauge both coils will have the same DC resistance ?

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[Magluvin]

Do his coils actually have the same length of wire in them ? If the DC resistances are different he either has more wire on one or a different gauge wire on one.
If the coils have both exactly the same DC resistance then the same DC current will flow for the same applied voltage, then the two could be tested separate and
the result would be much the same as Gyulasun achieved. If the DC resistances were the same and the applied DC voltage is the same the current will be the same
then a comparison can be made. No matter in series or separate.

So yes I do.

Cheers

P.S. Total turns on the bifilar should equal total turns on the single winding coil as well.

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But we are neglecting the capacitive differences in the coils. We concentrate on the resistance, the current flow. We are neglecting what happens 'initially' within the 2 coils when the input is connected. 

I would agree that if we measured the current with a meter it would be the same once the field is max. But nobody is looking at what really happens in the beginning. It would be easy to not even notice a peak input current with a meter. A scope would be needed.

If there is an initial high burst of mag field, the nail could be magnetized more even possibly permanently somewhat than if done slowly and without spikes or peaks that would not happen in an inductor of a single wire winding.


Mags

[Magluvin]

Do you dispute that if the coils have the same total wire length and the same wire gauge both coils will have the same DC resistance ?

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I answered that in my last post. 

Mags