Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect

[Farmhand]

One more comment then you can have all he last words you want.

An example of the abject denial. You say that in the case of the AV plug the Earth is a "wire" but it isn't, you want to be so specific about everything but cannot bring yourself to admit that a "wire" is a man made conductor, and the Earth is a natural conductor the Earth is not a wire by definition, but it can be a conductor. When there is wireless transmission of electricity using no wires that means using no man made conductors. Talk about ignorance and arrogance.

It would be wise not treat others like idiots. I bet my leftie I could school you real good on a number of different skills and knowledge of many subjects, so get over yourself.

I require no further communications with you as I get nothing really from it. So any efforts on your part are your own wasted efforts.

The Earth is a wire what a joke. Even a school kid can tell the difference between a piece of wire and some dirt. Hahahaha

Go read up the definition of "wire" and "conductor", if you don't already know the difference and are just being silly.

Regards

[Magluvin]

One more comment then you can have all he last words you want.

An example of the abject denial. You say that in the case of the AV plug the Earth is a "wire" but it isn't, you want to be so specific about everything but cannot bring yourself to admit that a "wire" is a man made conductor, and the Earth is a natural conductor the Earth is not a wire by definition, but it can be a conductor. When there is wireless transmission of electricity using no wires that means using no man made conductors. Talk about ignorance and arrogance.

It would be wise not treat others like idiots. I bet my leftie I could school you real good on a number of different skills and knowledge of many subjects, so get over yourself.

I require no further communications with you as I get nothing really from it. So any efforts on your part are your own wasted efforts.

The Earth is a wire what a joke. Even a school kid can tell the difference between a piece of wire and some dirt. Hahahaha

Go read up the definition of "wire" and "conductor", if you don't already know the difference and are just being silly.

Regards

In this vid below, I use a small neon transformer from an old scanner that fires the scan tube. its about 1kv ac out. I use 1 lead of the secondary to an AV plug, to 2  .33uf 275v caps in series and discharged into the primary of the spark/ign coil using 2 SIDACs in series. Sidac works as a solid state spark gap, these are about 230v break over.

You will see that if I connect another lead to the other end of the neon transformer secondary, the charging of the caps through the AV plug increases. And then bringing that lead close to the ign coil it charges even faster, and finally I touch the lead to the casing of the coil and we have liftoff. lol The lead from the other end of the neon secondary connects to the circuit via the capacitance of the ign coils can and the windings inside. We are just using capacitance as part of the circuit loop any way we look at it when using the AV plug.

I would venture to say the av plug would still charge the cap with little or no 'outside' capacitive loops just because of HF brute force. That open neon secondary is pumping charge back and forth in the open secondary, compressing and decompressing. If a cap plate is neutral and that compress/decompress impresses a difference of potential across that diode, then I feel the cap will charge anyway whether it has interaction with outside capacitance or not. This could be tested with different outside capacitance levels to see if there is a plateau that shows that charge can happen with just brute force, charging one side of the cap at a time. Being that capacitor plates seem to be 'flexible' with their plates being at different levels of charge, then I think they would accept or give charge differences of the single plates without a connection to the other plate, like how the AV plug functions.  If we ran a wire to the space station from earth, we could charge the space station to probably what ever charge and polarity we would desire, or how ever much it would accept or give up. There are limits.




None of this circuit is connected to ground. It happens with capacity in the air between components. But if we are close to the 'ground, I would say that limits the lower radius of air capacity, but just might help increase the air capacity between components in the circuit depending on the proximity of the circuit to the 'ground'/'earth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TR3WmK3qrws


Mags

[MileHigh]

Farmhand:

You are really upset that I did not see resonance in your motor setup.  It's like you want to force me to agree with you.  So your passive aggression has transformed into outright aggression and nasty words.  What the hell?

Your rant against my comments about how an AV plug works are over the top and nonsensical.  There you completely lost it.

That's about all that I can say.

MileHigh

[Farmhand]

My purpose to posting in this thread about the motor design with what very many people call a "resonant charging circuit" is to show what I am using, how it works and the principal behind it, is so that others may benefit from the concept if they wish. I made the process of understanding the thinking behind it as step by step as I could so that the real intention for doing it is seen by at least some. And in that regard I think I have succeeded.

In common usage the motor would be run from the grid power and would be microprocessor controlled in the most advanced application and merely a compromise in general use, as are all motors, none are perfect in all applications.

I don't require permission to use the word resonance. Furthermore I have little regard for arguing semantics. Hence the mentioning of the Earth is a wire rubbish. Those of us stuck in reality realize that the Earth conducts and displacement current exists so the "Earth is a wire rubbish" is completely unnecessary. It would be much less confusing to just say the Earth is a conductor and is acting as a wire would act as a conductor. But repeatedly it is said by the Tesla deniers that there is no wireless energy transfer, they equate wire to conductor and treat everybody like an idiot by insinuating we don't know what the heck a conductor is compared to a wire for goodness sake. Personally I take that a direct insult to my intelligence. And I know others take it that way as well. And I know you know it MileHigh, just like I know Ex. knows it. I feel you guys deliberately complicate things, and deliberately misrepresent what some people say at times particularly when our dear Mr Tesla's devices or inventions are mentioned. I am not concerned of the wild claims made by those other than Mr Tesla. If the patent tells the truth then that is all that matters to me. The patents have the claims.

So I cannot take anyone seriously who continues to claim the Earth is a "wire" when it is clearly not, though it can be a "conductor". The difference is very important in the context of the purpose of the devices it relates to. Please desist with trying to make everybody else conform to your views and accept that people know the difference between these things.

Anyway when I am ready I will make a thread particularly about this motor here, at the present time I'm not happy to say I have a motor put together that posses all the required relationships to work in the best possible way for the design.

During the RomeroUK thread I mentioned using a resonant charging circuit to power a pulse motor and that the charging coil could help to turn the rotor, no one did it that I am aware of so I thought it was time for me to try it and see what happened.

As It turns out, after more adjustments the charging coil as it sits now in my motor is approximately 90 degrees lagging out of electrical phase with the motor coils (there are two now), each one 360 degree electrical phase occurs in a 90 degree sector of the rotor and the charging coil is 90 degrees out of phase with the motor coils.

MileHigh, You seem to not want to just let things happen, even when there is seen to be a reason for it there is negativity in general from you, though I do admit that you do agree on points at times and even say when you think something is a good idea. So I don't see you as being intentionally nasty so to speak.

Please keep in mind to argue with you i need to research to find the words to fit the pictures in my head, and that wastes my time, I work in pictures and when i need figures I know it and educate myself with the necessary information learn enough to get the job or project done to my satisfaction.

I can work two ways, I can keep everything to myself, or I can share as I go. As I find it I prefer to share so that if I miss things people like HopToad and SeaMonkey help me because they are actually interested in if I succeed or not. At certain times I can have a lot on my mind because I find order in chaos, I do get confused and make many mistakes or misspeak. I try to rectify when I do.

No hard feeling on my part, I'm just sayin I don't communicate that way.

Cheers

P.S. And as far as my motor goes, it does not matter what you think it has or hasn't got in it's operation what matters is what is. What is is what is and that is that. If anything I may claim is incorrect then so be it. But please if you want in imply that I made a claim please back it up with a quote so that I may retract it if I see I am in error. That is the proper thing to do.

The use of series capacitances is not yet even explored, but the effects can be foreseen in certain situations if we run simulations in our heads based on previous "hands on" experience (engineering), usually the simulations are very close to operating conditions as of course they must be when based on real previous outcomes..

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[MileHigh]

Farmhand:

You're objecting to my use of metaphor, like it's some sort of offense.  It's really crazy when you think about it.  On top of that, when I post I am always conscious of the general readers of the thread, I am also posting for them.  The use of the metaphor is to give people insight, and they might benefit from visualizing the earth acting like a conductor, a wire.  It's something they might not have thought of before.  I am willing to bet there are people in this thread right now that have never pondered this stuff.  There is also a buzz word, "single wire power transmission."  If you believe this when first learning about electronics, if you stumble and don't master the basic basics, then you are crippling yourself and it will corrupt your understanding of electronics.  Single-wire power transmission is impossible, because you must have current and voltage to transmit power.  Also, any electric circuit must form a current loop to work.  All of these important concepts are contained within visualizing the fact that "single wire power transmission" is in fact "two wire power transmission."  Some of the readers of the thread might not realize it and benefit from the learning experience.

And I get that kind of response from you, because I used a metaphor?  You think I was trying to insult anybody?  Give me a break.

MileHigh