How do you make Money from an overunity device that can not be patented?

[Qwert]

Properties of a naturally occurred material is not patentable. BUT: The same properties of the same material UNDER SPECIFIC CONDITION is patentable, I guess. And these "specific condition(s)" can be naturally occured conditions.

[lumen]

That would be a fine idea, if you already had a factory, a couple years of design and tooling, suppliers lined up and ready to ship, and a huge amount of money to pay all of those people.  Unfortunately, I don't have that set up. As soon as the very first one goes out the door, China and many others will be cranking them out in a week.  My money needs to be made on the sale of the technology, not the products.

True, but you only really need the models for those who don't believe it actually works. You could produce only a few models as proof of concept at some higher cost, then sell plans only for $100 each and achieve the same goal. Your final cost would include a web page with a PDF that could be purchased for the $100. You have no real excuse except for no real device!

Get it on the market!

[evolvingape]

Patenting will not work, a worldwide patent would be required which is a lengthy process and very expensive. By applying for a patent you are applying for a contract with the government which is all they need to slap a national security seal on it and disappear it forever. Besides that, if you ever did begin producing it under patent somewhere like China will ignore the patent and produce better quality for less money... and your gone.

Plans will not work, assuming the device is genuine some people will buy the plans. Soon after such an important device will have the plans posted on the internet and few will buy them when they can get them for free via torrent for example. Look at the music and software industry, you cannot sell data securely anymore since the internet went big. You might make a living off plans, but Justsomeguy does not want to make a living, he wants to be disgustingly wealthy.

Nobel Prize route may work if the device or process or whatever is independently verified and then published. The money you would make from the Nobel Prize is more than most people would ever need but remember the disgustingly wealthy desire... will it be enough ? then you have to deal with the fame aspect, which some people do not want.

Or you could just give it away and live off the fame, and also there is the potential of honest decent men such as Sterling Allan who have publicly stated that they will voluntarily pay a royalty to any inventor who open sources their work. The devices will be developed and sold by these decent folks and the inventor will get his %.

The only other alternative is to sell out to big business, for an obscene amount of money (disgustingly wealthy kinda scale) and then sign a NDA, destroy all your prototypes and notes, and then sit back while your device is hidden from the world forever and you can go off and enjoy your wealth. Unless they decide a hitman is far cheaper and offers a reasonable chance of containing the dissemination of critical information.

So not much choice really is there...

RM

[FatBird]

Anybody that thinks he can get a Patent on an Overunity Device is EXTREMELY NAIVE & OUT TO LUNCH.
PLEASE WISE UP!!!

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[Qwert]

If China (and any other country) ignores international patent law, eventually it can use it only on their internal market which anyway is still not fully accessible for the rest of the world. Anyway, everybody can use a patent without a patent owner's permission; such producer only can not make profit from such product (officially). But, this also can be tricked, for example by selling a disassembled kit with included some other components, with an instruction that this patent "CAN BE" assembled from that kit, (among other projects), mentioning that this is done only "for the educational purposes" or using some other "magic phrase".