FIRST FREE ENERGY DEVICE REACHES MARKET IN OCTOBER -- The Game Changer is Here

[MileHigh]

Nice weak reply there Wilby, you can go retreat to your nearest culvert now.  If you actually have something to contribute to this thread then fine, but if it is going to be the same old bullshit from you then STFU, it's just stupid nonsense.

The root cause issue for you is working on becoming a decent human being.  Fix that problem and then the relentless pursuit of argument for argument's sake and to intimidate people and make them miserable just might go away.

[chessnyt]

That's a real leap of logic that you are taking.

Like I already said, Andrea Rossi is the first to have produced LENR plants (large container systems) so it would stand to reason that he will be the first to deliver the smaller mass produced home units. I don't think this is rocket science.  His competition doesn't even have a publicly demonstrated prototype yet.

It takes a team of engineers to make the product and another team of engineers to create the factory.  It would cost millions and millions of dollars and you would think there would be some information about this.

No matter how many engineers it takes and no matter how much it may cost, this does not mean that Andrea Rossi would be stupid enough to show the layout of his plant (for all of his competitors to see and copy) and publish pictures of the factory.  If I were in his shoes, I'd do the exact same thing and I'd have additional motives for keeping details concerning the factory confidential.  I wouldn't want to even disclose the location of the factory to minimize any chances of foul play. 

I hope that Dennis Bushnell is right. 

Dr. Dennis Bushnell is in a better position than you are to draw this conclusion as Dennis is not just citing mere opinion here like you are.  He's making reference to 100's of LENR positive test results to back up his statement.

The release of scientific papers is much more convincing.  At the same time, if a biased news organization or a web site cherry picks only the most positive papers and ignores the most negative papers, that's not good either.

A news organization didn't cherry pick these positive LENR test results (as you tried to twist the facts around again in another clumsy disinformation attempt) as you state in your quote above.  Dr. Dennis Bushnell (Chief Scientist of NASA Langley Research Center) was the one who referenced the 100's of positive LENR test results to back up his statement concerning LENR technology.  Here's the quote again:

"...Al Opdenaker (from The U.S.Department of Energy) personally spoke to Dr. Dennis Bushnell a Chief Scientist for NASA Langley who explained to him that more than 100 Low energy nuclear reaction experiments had been conducted that confirmed that LENR was no longer a mere theory. Bushnell confirmed that now much greater energy could be generated through LENR than through conventional chemical reactions"

I highlighted the parts of the quote to show the readers WHO cited the 100's of positive LENR test results above.

Once again, Dr. Dennis Bushnell (Chief Scientist of NASA Langley Research Center) has your opinion beat by a mile with real FACTS (experimental evidence) in support of his statement to The U.S. Department of Energy.


Chess

[Magluvin]

No matter how many engineers it takes and no matter how much it may cost, this does not mean that Andrea Rossi would be stupid enough to show the layout of his plant (for all of his competitors to see and copy) and publish pictures of the factory.  If I were in his shoes, I'd do the exact same thing and I'd have additional motives for keeping details concerning the factory confidential.  I wouldn't want to even disclose the location of the factory to minimize any chances of foul play. 


Chess

JL Audio, a car and home sound system equipment manufacturer, has rooms(labs, tech rooms, etc.) in their company that none of us here would ever be invited into. And some rooms that you might be invited into, may have many things covered in white sheets while you are there.

So for a company that just sells entertainment equipment to have some levels of secrecy, I can fully realize much higher levels of concern when it comes to an energy device such as the Rossie device. Especially if there is competition out there. ;]

Mags

[MileHigh]

Chess:

No matter how many engineers it takes and no matter how much it may cost, this does not mean that Andrea Rossi would be stupid enough to show the layout of his plant (for all of his competitors to see and copy) and publish pictures of the factory.  If I were in his shoes, I'd do the exact same thing and I'd have additional motives for keeping details concerning the factory confidential.  I wouldn't want to even disclose the location of the factory to minimize any chances of foul play. 

I disagree with you about showing some pictures of a plant and revealing some details.  Seeing pictures of a production line is not going to reveal anything special in almost all cases.  I just watched the Microsoft presentation for the announcement of the Surface tablet and they take you right into the factory.  I am not directly comparing the two cases but still.

It's impossible to not disclose the location of the hypothetical factory.  Somebody is cutting purchase orders with ship-to addresses on them.   They would have to develop a network of second-tier suppliers, for displays and folded metal and plastic parts and shipping boxes and the list goes on and on.  People that run a factory have to develop a network of supply chain contacts.  Suppliers would be coming and going all the time.  Requests for quotes would be being sent out.  You are just dreaming.

"...Al Opdenaker (from The U.S.Department of Energy) personally spoke to Dr. Dennis Bushnell a Chief Scientist for NASA Langley who explained to him that more than 100 Low energy nuclear reaction experiments had been conducted that confirmed that LENR was no longer a mere theory. Bushnell confirmed that now much greater energy could be generated through LENR than through conventional chemical reactions"

It is a pretty impressive sounding quote.  I just haven't heard about any test labs getting negative results.  Surely there must be some, so some balance would be good.  Supposing 400 LENR experiments were done in the last year and 100 showed positive results.  Well if you only report that there are 100 test labs showing positive results that's problematic.  This is just a thought experiment to make a point.  I am not trying to twist the facts in a "clumsy disinformation attempt."

The alleged factory is one of the elements in the story that has to start to materialize over time.  We are now waiting for a launch of the home E-Cat in 2013 if I am correct?  But we have no confirmed launch date, correct?  Supposedly UL is testing a unit.

Still in a waiting loop.

MileHigh

[sparks]

    The process that is utilized in the ECAT is the same process that mainstream neuclear physicists are emloying now to create fusion.  ITER is dormant right now and gone back into research mode in light of the fact that coulomb explosions get the job done with high gain over input power.  Stan Meyer back in the 80's was fracturing water using coulumb explosions in his fuel cells whether he knew it or not is debatable.  This technology takes water and creates hydrogen in copious amounts.   The hydrogen is then recombined with atmospheric oxygen in a process that generates pressure in a non-thermal manner.  The expansion of the hydrogen peroxide produced on board the vehicle drives the cylinder with rocket fuel synthesised on demand.  The spent fuel returns to ubiquotous water vapor at room temperature.  And all the ECAT can do is produce heated water?  Crude device for sure
.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KjKN9n7J80   http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=1jcjwsoJZkM&NR=1

  You will notice in this video that he is using a battery operated device in the milliwatt regime to produce coherent light.
He takes one small ballon holds it in his fingers in front of the camera and the balloon and contents disappear.  There is no heat involved here.  Fast ions and electrons for sure but no frigging heat.