FIRST FREE ENERGY DEVICE REACHES MARKET IN OCTOBER -- The Game Changer is Here

[Gwandau]

MileHigh,

Since you seem to be completely unaware of the enormous threat this has to the oil industry and their whole infrastructure,
you will probaly never be able to understand the predicament that Andrea Rossi is subjected to.

He is fighting a war against absolutely real enemies.

Why is it that you don't seem to grasp such an obvious fact?

Are you really that ignorant???  I don't believe so. There must be another reason for your ill-suiting stupor.

Of course he doesn't fit into your mould as how a serious inventor ought to act.

This invention does not fit at all into anything previously encountered in the industrial history, and Andrea Rossi is fully aware of the implications resulting from this. This brake-through has the same magnitude as the big early innovations that made up the very foundation of the industrial age, with one extremely important difference. The other guys changing history did not have any dominating world wide company to fight against, they were the first ones, totally unchalleneged.

I repeat for the thousand time: The guys behind the world dominating oil industry are totally dependent upon their oil industry.

Do you think these guys would just say:

"Hey, look at this wonderful inventor, who has come up with a device that will make our sales go down to nothing in a few years. Wow, that's really great! Lets give him a hug and take a big step aside."

Give me a brake!

How would you do if you were in AR:s position? Would you really think it is just to show the world what you have got, and everyone would salute you? Even the big ones you just have "killed"?

STUPID STUPID STUPID beyond rescue would you be in that case, and I hope that you never will do any important breakthrough that seriously threatens anybody that powerful, since it would just be a waste in our predatory world.

If you want to compete with these guys all the way to their industrial death and your own world dominating corporation, wich is the magnitude of an invention like the E-Cat, keep in mind that your enemies will do whatever they can to stop you.

I have to ask you three questions here at this stage of our communication, since your attitude feels artificial and strangely rigid.

What on earth are you doing on this forum?  Do you really believe in the possibility of great discoveries in small garages?

Or are you just a guy hating that possibility?

I want you to show us all here who you really are.

Your answer will determine my interest in any further responding to you posts, and I have a feeling this goes for ohers here as well after reading your answer.

As far as I am concerned, avoiding this question will terminate my communication with you, since I have a bad feeing about who you really are.

Gwandau

[chessnyt]

@MileLow:
I'd have quoted the entire disinformation rant but who's going to take the time to read through that novel again?  I mean all it was missing was chapters and a forward.

I have met hundreds and hundreds of engineers and I have been in dozens and dozens of high tech factories and I know what is involved in launching a product on the scale that Rossi is talking about and I have reasonable expectations on what we should be seeing right now in this ongoing narrative.  We are simply not seeing what I believe we should be seeing.

I have been involved in setting up high tech factories myself (even ones with sophisticated robots  ) and I can tell you first hand that NOT ONCE did the factory owners publish their progress in a newspaper or call in a news crew to do a story.  NOT ONE TIME!  NOT EVEN ONE TIME!  They never even considered doing such a thing!

A "Mass Market LENR Product" means that they are inquiring about a home product or a commercial product for industry.  This would not apply to the container with the individual pods.  Note Rossi's reply is "We are already producing plants" which would seem to imply the container system.

It is obvious to MOST people that possess a brain cell that he is stating that he is the first to have produced and continue producing the LENR plants (container systems) so it would stand to reason that he will be the first to deliver the mass produced home units.  In other words, NONE of his competition has even one LENR product sold to a single customer so he is way ahead of everybody else.

I would love for this to be real and perhaps the test tubes are going to prove that it is real. 

"...Al Opdenaker (from The U.S.Department of Energy) personally spoke to Dr. Dennis Bushnell a Chief Scientist for NASA Langley who explained to him that more than 100 Low energy nuclear reaction experiments had been conducted that confirmed that LENR was no longer a mere theory. Bushnell confirmed that now much greater energy could be generated through LENR than through conventional chemical reactions"

So MileShort, I think Dr. Dennis Bushnell (Chief Scientist of NASA Langley research Center) has you beat here by a mile.  I just have a gut feeling here that most people are going to take Dr. Bushnell's word over yours.


Regards,

Chess

[sparks]

    Hey there are already LENR devices mass produced for 20years or more now.  Smoke Detectors! 

    

[MileHigh]

Gwandau:

I don't necessarily believe in your logic and I refuse to "show you my papers."

Industries grow and shrink and the oil industry will not necessarily be immune to that.  There are many web sites that go into this stuff and they look mostly like supermarket trashy tabloid websites to me.  There may be a kernel of truth to what you say.  Look at the business culture in Japan for example where groups of companies form cartels.  I will just say it again, if the oil industry is 10% of the economy, just as an example, then the other 90% of the economy wants cheaper energy and they are a stronger force.

Look at Rossi right now and the amount of press associated with LENR.  It has enough critical mass to not get snuffed out.  Outside of the realm of free energy all people are energy conscious and have been for the past 30 years.  Energy is discussed every day in the news.

You just have to understand that my opinions are different from yours.  Big deal, what's your problem?  I am just giving you my opinion on the tid-bits of news that are coming out about the E-Cats.  Rossi is not a god and the E-Cat is not perfect.  You can forget any fantasies that I have a sinister agenda.

Chess:

This alleged factory is part of the Riossi/E-Cat narrative.  People that are interested in this story will be interested in knowing about the factory.  It's a high-visibility element in the story.  Major factories being built do in fact make the news. 

It is obvious to MOST people that possess a brain cell that he is stating that he is the first to have produced and continue producing the LENR plants (container systems) so it would stand to reason that he will be the first to deliver the mass produced home units.

That's a real leap of logic that you are taking.  It takes a team of engineers to make the product and another team of engineers to create the factory.  It would cost millions and millions of dollars and you would think there would be some information about this.

In theory, based on the narrative so far, are we supposed to assume that Underwriter's Laboratories are evaluating the home E-Cat right now?  That implies that the first team of engineers have done a near-final design.  I just don't get any sense that this has happened.  I am not stating fact, just my opinion based on what I am hearing.

I hope that Dennis Bushnell is right.  I looked at a recent NASA report and it was very forward-looking and just assumed that LENR would be viable by about 2025 (If I remember) and that is not "proof" that LENR is real.  The release of scientific papers is much more convincing.  At the same time, if a biased news organization or a web site cherry picks only the most positive papers and ignores the most negative papers, that's not good either.

Anyway, we can wait for more tid-bits of news.  I may post my opinions.

MileHigh

[WilbyInebriated]

In a related matter, there are lots of grand sweeping statements that proclaim that "we are going to destroy most or all life on Earth if we don't come up with an alternative energy source soon" are nothing but politically correct propagandizing and parroting.  Life on Earth is extremely robust and if changes happen, even major changes, then life will adapt and find a new balance.

MileHigh

MileHigh,

that's quite a statement.

Do you have information that the rest of us here on earth does not have?

Then please give us data on the upper limits of what an eco system can take before breaking down.

The whole world will be thankful for your knowledge.

Gwandau

Gwandau:

I can easily answer your question.  However, let me turn the tables for a second, I promise to answer it later.

... snipped the usual red herrings ...

MileHigh

we are all still waiting you lying troll...