FIRST FREE ENERGY DEVICE REACHES MARKET IN OCTOBER -- The Game Changer is Here

[lumen]

As long as Rossi can keep people believing it is not real then he can make progress! As soon as it is shown to be real beyond any doubt, then his progress will quickly end.

[MileHigh]

Lumen:

As long as Rossi can keep people believing it is not real then he can make progress! As soon as it is shown to be real beyond any doubt, then his progress will quickly end.

That's arguably the oldest cliche in the book.  Let's suppose that energy production represents 5% of the economy and 95% of the economy is represented by energy consumers.

Supposing you invent a free energy machine that results in the production of electricity at 1/100th of what electricity costs today.

One of the industries that consumes more electricity than any other industry is the aluminum industry.  I think I read that they consume 20% of the entire production of electrical power in the USA.

So, if you go to the multi-billion dollar aluminum industry and offer to sell them electricity at 1/100th their current cost, do you think they are going to be interested?

Let me put it another way, if you can offer 95% of the economy that consumes energy drastically reduced energy costs, and that is in competition with the 5% of the economy that actually produces energy, what do you think is a possible outcome?

The MIB fantasies are simply too simplistic and don't make sense.  Any corporation would want to purchase energy at a cheaper price so they could make more profits and be more competitive in the marketplace by lowering their prices.  The MIB story is a boogeyman that is mostly the creation of free energy con artists.

MileHigh

[lumen]

Milehigh,
You might be a bit short sighted on your view of energy so I will sum it up in a phrase.
He who controls the energy, controls the country! Nothing left out, just fact.

[lumen]

Lets suppose you invent something like a cell phone, better than the land line phone and soon it makes the land line phone obsolete. No problem unless you are the owner of the land line service.
Oil, over a million barrels a day at $100. a barrel in the US alone, x 365 days a year! Forget about industry, industry only exists because of the masses of people wanting some product.

So in the end, which product do you want,
The car that needs gas and must stop every 400 miles to fill with expensive fuel OR the car you drive for six months and refill with inexpensive fuel.

The lawn mower that runs all summer automatically to cut the grass and costs $10 to run, or the one you must drive yourself and costs $20. every few days.

The furnace that heats you house all winter for $10, OR the current furnace that costs $200-$300 a MONTH.

In the end you not dealing with anyone in industry or the energy sector, your making them OBSOLETE!

AND instead of several energy companies for industry to deal with for the best prices, it will all be controlled by a single person BECAUSE you know it's the american way right? I mean, everyone has the right to invent something and market it, especially in the US, where we don't need to care about what impact your invention has on anyone else, only as long as you can make money on it RIGHT! It's the business model, make everyone else obsolete while you maintain control, and next thing you know you can hold the country hostage, just like is now.

If you have a better product you don't need to sell it, they will come to you!

[MileHigh]

Lumen:

The car, lawnmower, and furnace that are talking about are just hypothetical, they don't exist.  Energy works in a free market environment, just like most commodities.  You can heat your house with oil, gas, electricity, wood, or solar.  You can make that choice yourself, no one is stopping you.

I am not convinced by your arguments.  There are many times more powerful corporations that want cheap energy compared to powerful corporations that supply energy.

Cell phones are replacing land line phones.  Computers replaced typewriters, and there are no more corporations manufacturing typewriters.  There are no more CRT TVs.

Change is good and you are being too simplistic.  The real problem is demonstrating that you have a true functioning way of producing energy.  It's almost a no-brainer.  You have a device that produces heat energy at reduced cost?   Fine, give me a demo that heats water, cold-water-in, hot-water-out.   I can measure the temperature difference between the input and output, I can measure the rate of flow of the water, and I know the specific heat of water.  With that information I can calculate the energy output with a hand-held calculator and it will take me 20 seconds.  Show me that heat producing system independently verified by outside third-party testers and I will be very interested.  Show me the same test on multiple occasions verified by a series of different third party testers and I will be extremely interested.  Rossi gets a FAIL.  He hasn't done that.  So we are left with a waiting game.

MileHigh