FIRST FREE ENERGY DEVICE REACHES MARKET IN OCTOBER -- The Game Changer is Here

[TinselKoala]

Attached please find the report on Rossi's thermoelectric module testing from DoD.
http://dodfuelcell.cecer.army.mil/library_items/Thermo(2004).pdf

[chessnyt]

@Everyone:
Well since his first customer turns out to be a branch of the military, the secrecy request doesn't surprise me.  What military is not secretive? 

If there is one type of customer you would NEVER want to even dream of pulling a scam on, it would be a military one.  There goes the idea of Rossi running a scam crowd 


Cheers,

Chess

[Rosemary Ainslie]

Why bother?  Why not exchange ideas and try to find out what the real truth is?

I am intrigued with this phrase 'real truth'.  It's a phrase that is heavily relied on by so many of you 'disclaimers'. Reality and truth are one and the same thing.  You cannot have reality without knowing the truth.  And you cannot have the truth without knowing the reality. The one term cannot qualify the other.  They are one and the same.  Tautological.  Yet the 'implication' is that there are some forms of truth that are true and there are some forms of truth that are not quite so true.  Which is an entire misapplication of the meaning of either term.  It is either a truth or it is NOT.  No other options.  Since so much of these disclaimers depend the implication that there has been some 'sleight of hand' or some 'disguised result' - then there is also the need to promote the concept of a 'lie'.  Which is implicit in that rather abusive distinction between truth and reality.  And thereby they manage their actual target.  Guys - I'm entirely satisfied that there is no-one here who is 'suckered'.  I am constantly angered at this insulting level of insinuation that is promoted with all the subtlety of a meteorite in free fall.   

That would be true if Rossi was discussed in the lay press.  But in fact he isn't at all.  There is no "exponential mushrooming" going on anywhere with respect to Rossi.  But who knows how many people want to invest in his schemes behind the scenes?  The answer to that is nobody knows except for Rossi's inner circle.

And here it is again.  While it is true that the knowledge of this technology will indeed 'mushroom' at an even greater pace than it's managing at the moment - when our media take hold of these TRUTHS - the fact is that talk of LENR and COLD FUSION - is spreading through the internet at the velocity of light speed.  And thanks to that light - it is also showing us that our standard model is far from complete.  Both of which 'truths' may rather confront the concerns of our monopolistic and exploitive energy suppliers.  And regarding the 'who knows how many people want to invest in his schemes?'  We've got a shrewd idea how many.  I think it's numbered in those that have ordered their E-Cats.  And those stats are public knowledge.

Here is a follow-up to the thermoelectric generator story from Wikipedia:Anybody that works in technology would find that story laughable.  Assuming that the 'factory' burned down like TK said, then as a result the DoD quality auditors had nowhere to go.  How about them apples?

TK is yet to give us evidence of that factory that 'burned down' that also resulted in Rossi's inability to deliver anything at all to that DoD as TK politely refers to it.  Therefore any 'assumption' related to this claim - is void.  But don't let this lack of evidence spoil your argument MileHigh.  Rather let TK provide some evidence to back this 'truth'.  And then.  In line with good argument which would counter any ham fisted efforts at propagandising - we'd be able to establish the 'real' truth as you refer to it.  And how about 'them apples'?  I'm not sure I understand this question - in any context at all.  But that's probably because I'm not as young as I once was. 

I wonder how much the DoD paid for the 27 thermoelectric devices...

Indeed.  And in the same way I wonder what it is that motivates this rather inappropriate slew of allegations based on nothing at all - let alone 'hearsay'. 

Who said that the testing at the University of New Hampshire produced 100 watts continuously for one week?  I don't know the answer to that but I would not be surprised if "Rossi said."

And I, on the other hand, wouldn't be surprised if the good people who actually engaged in that test were, in fact the one's that 'said' - as you put it.  Because if  Rossi alleged that the university had conducted a successful replication of results  - while the 'real truth' was that the good people at the University of New Hampshire had NOT conducted a successful replication of results - then it would be more than probable that the authorities at the University of New Hampshire would have instituted an interdict against our Mr Rossi and demanded a public retraction. And guys.  Please DO study that DoDdocument.  There's a multiplicity of reasons why they failed.  Starting with bad packaging - from the get go.  Fortunately for those excellent experimentalists at New Hampshire - they had the good sense and proper motivation to ensure that their apparatus arrived unbroken.  And IF they too found  communication with Rossi difficult -  they also and nonetheless, managed their tests notwithstanding.

Which is not intended to imply or allege that the personnel at the DoD were less competent or even less committed to the results - because that would both actionable and slanderous.

Regards,
Rosemary

[Rosemary Ainslie]

And MileHigh - regarding this wiki account...

In January 2011 Andrea Rossi and Professor Sergio Focardi claimed to have successfully demonstrated commercially viable cold fusion in a device called an Energy Catalyzer, although in an interview Rossi claimed that his Energy Catalyzer is not working on the basis of cold fusion, but weak [force] nuclear reactions.^[11] The international patent application received an unfavorable international preliminary report on patentability because it seemed to "offend against the generally accepted laws of physics and established theories" and to overcome this problem the application should have contained either experimental evidence or a firm theoretical basis in current scientific theories.^[12] Journalists were not allowed to examine the core of the reactor, and there is still uncertainty about the viability of the invention.^[13]

This is yet another example of the 'downsides' to wiki - that are not equal to absolutely adequately reporting issues,  in the same way that they are not equal to absolutely defining alpha emissions.  Rossi did not claim that 'his energy' catalyst was NOT working on the basis of cold fusion.  On the contrary.  He both claimed - and is claiming - that it DOES.  He drew the distinction that cold fusion required nothing more dramatic than the 'weak force'.  The weak force is NOT generally associated with nuclear reactions.  And that international patent that seemed to 'offend against the generally accepted laws of physics and established theories' was actually branded by Dr Vest - a 'pathological science'.  Which thereby precluded ANY patents submitted under this term.  Hence the birth of the new term Low Energy Nuclear Reaction.  LOL.  And IF there is still 'uncertainty about the viability of the invention' it is not shared by an escalating number of highly esteemed academics - headed by a Nobel Laureate. 

So. On the whole I'd say that wiki 'errors' somewhat.  In fact it errs all over the place. 

Regards,
Rosemary

edited.  A singular amendment.  LOL   

[chessnyt]

@Everyone:
More good news on the radar!  Defkalion is beginning to release details of their third party testing by reputable private and public organizations from Europe and America. 

Here is an excerpt:

DGT plans to have a full working prototype ready by July 2012
One license per country will be available to potential licensees
40.5 million Euros is the license fee for a factory capable of producing 300,000 Hyperion units annually.

DGT states, “Defkalion has conducted third party tests on its core technology by internationally recognized and reputable private and public organizations from Europe and America. Today, there is solid, unambiguous evidence confirming our technology. We are at the dawn of a new era of clean, inexpensive, limitless renewable energy.”

The article can be found at the following link:

http://www.e-catworld.com/2012/04/defkalion-green-technologies-communicates-with-interested-parties/

When it rains good news, IT POURS!!!


GET EXCITED!!!

Chess