FIRST FREE ENERGY DEVICE REACHES MARKET IN OCTOBER -- The Game Changer is Here

[chessnyt]

And Chess - as ever, I have much to learn from you.  Well done indeed.  You make really good points with all the artistry of economy of expression.  Really nice.

@Rosemary:
Thank you but these points could not be made without the obvious smear campaign that the main opponents have waged here.  It is clear that they are not even allowed to concede that LENR technology has positive results that are well documented and published.  Even NASA now endorses LENR technology so it's simply an exercise in futility to keep on denying the reality of positive results achieved (LOL).

One opponent has sidestepped my validity question (concerning LENR) now for the second time in a row and thinks he's fooling someone here.  It's like I stated earlier; They would like to isolate the discussion to only Rossi because they can not debunk LENR technology and this is the technology that Rossi has based his claims on.  It's the common distraction tactic (hey, look over here and NOT over there) designed to take the focus away from that which ruins their illusion (magicians use this tactic also).


Best Regards,

Chess

[MileHigh]

Chess:

In a way I don't have to debunk LENR.  You know the fundamental 'problem,' perhaps there in a more appropriate word, with nuclear fusion is that you have to overcome the electrostatic repulsion between the two nuclei and then they have to his hard enough into each other to overcome the strong force and fuse together to create a new nucleus.  I am no expert, just a lay person here, but I just can't fathom how a hydrogen atom bouncing around inside a lattice of nickel atoms can possibly do that.  I don't know how many mega or giga electron volts of energy it takes to do nickel-hydrogen fusion but I suppose I could look it up.  There is such a huge energy potential barrier to overcome that I just can't fathom it.  I really can't.  And quasi 'sleight of hand' explanations by the fanboys don't work for me.  "It's a new way of doing it."  A new way WHAT?  It just doesn't work for me.

Like I already said, I am not interested in a "battle of the test tubes."  There is no end to that argument.  I agree, some legitimate researchers have endorsed LENR, some legitimate researchers haven't endorsed it.  What's a boy to do?

The proof in the pudding is real tangible results.  So I am waiting for them.  I have already discounted anything that Rossi might say.  The only thing that Rossi can do to convince me is deliver the goods.  You try to portray me as evil, and all that I am asking him to do is deliver the goods.

So bringing it all back home, I don't have to debunk LENR.  Rather, LENR has to prove it is real in a practical working application like Rossi claims.  That is the issue, it's the burden of proof and where it truly applies.

MileHigh

[chessnyt]

Chess:

In a way I don't have to debunk LENR.

You can't so why would you even try? 

Like I already said, I am not interested in a "battle of the test tubes." 

Well of course not.  It ruins your whole illusion of this evil baseless Rossi monster you are trying to project.  You are obviously not interested in the truth.  The truth illuminates you.

I agree, some legitimate researchers have endorsed LENR, some legitimate researchers haven't endorsed it.  What's a boy to do?

...and still, no admission of positive results published per peer review concerning LENR technology.  Just more sidestepping of the validity issue 

And to answer your question; Stop acting like a boy.

I have already discounted anything that Rossi might say.

This goes without saying.  A closed mind finally admits itself with a Freudian slip 

@Everyone:
Here's the latest news release:

Dear Mark Saker:

You are right: very much is going on behind the scenes, because in this matter is best first do things, then talk of them.

We will give due information of all the facts we will have made, while during the making of them we prefer to work in silence, to work better.

The 1 MW plant is for military purpose, it cannot be seen, but when we will have (soon) a plant in operation that will be visitable, People like you, who have helped us, will be invited to visit it.

Very important things are in the making, but, again, I prefer making before talking.


Warm Regards,

A.R.

Here's the link:

http://www.e-catworld.com/2012/04/rossi-prefers-making-before-talking-what-would-you-do-in-his-shoes/

So the first customer IS a military branch!  My guess was correct 


Enjoy,

Chess

[Gwandau]

MileHigh,

nuclear science is in its infant stage, more groping in the dark than knowing very much.
Hot fusion is doing it the violent way, by brutal force, like blasting the door instead of opening it with the key.

Of course there is an abundance of yet not discovered ways to execute changes within the nucleus.

What makes you think we know everything needed to know about fusion. How utterly ignorant!

Don't you see that we still are more close to a bunch of chimpansees playing with lighters, than truly understanding what's going on?

You repeatedly refer to the "layman", but these "bright" guys of today are all mimicking the almost hundred years old theoretical math and
concepts of Werner Heisenberg, Max Born and Niels Borh, and the halting efforts to camoflage the paradoxes and contradictions with things
such as the wave-particle duality of energy and matter and the uncertainty principle just makes things worse, and even worse it gets when the
string theory is presented.

Can't you smell the bad breath of bad theory, or are you just like the rest in the "Emperors new clothes", duped by the mere authority of the
so called legitimate nuclear scientist.  Are you one of those impressed by the Cern LHC, mankinds chimpaneese tool to explore physical reality
by means of pure violence?

Smash heavy particles together and see what happens. Maybe we find the "God Particle" and thus will be able to nail God to the floor,
saying AHA! there we got you! As far as I am concerned, this is the uttermost sign of mankinds stupidity, and her self imposed
degradation of understanding the Universe.

Just wait and see,  and meanwhile keep on degrading any sign of non legitimate scientific report to nothing but the products of scammers and crooks,
which seems to be the only thing you are good at, poor fellow.

Since this thread only seems to be occupied by your posts and our futile efforts to inject hope into your miserable negativity,
I will from now on avoid any further communication with you.

Gwandau

[hoptoad]

Chess:

In a way I don't have to debunk LENR.  You know the fundamental 'problem,' perhaps there in a more appropriate word, with nuclear fusion is that you have to overcome the electrostatic repulsion between the two nuclei and then they have to his hard enough into each other to overcome the strong force and fuse together to create a new nucleus.  I am no expert, just a lay person here, but I just can't fathom how a hydrogen atom bouncing around inside a lattice of nickel atoms can possibly do that.  I don't know how many mega or giga electron volts of energy it takes to do nickel-hydrogen fusion but I suppose I could look it up.  There is such a huge energy potential barrier to overcome that I just can't fathom it.  I really can't.  And quasi 'sleight of hand' explanations by the fanboys don't work for me.  "It's a new way of doing it."  A new way WHAT?  It just doesn't work for me.

Like I already said, I am not interested in a "battle of the test tubes."  There is no end to that argument.  I agree, some legitimate researchers have endorsed LENR, some legitimate researchers haven't endorsed it.  What's a boy to do?

The proof in the pudding is real tangible results.  So I am waiting for them.  I have already discounted anything that Rossi might say.  The only thing that Rossi can do to convince me is deliver the goods.  You try to portray me as evil, and all that I am asking him to do is deliver the goods.

So bringing it all back home, I don't have to debunk LENR.  Rather, LENR has to prove it is real in a practical working application like Rossi claims.  That is the issue, it's the burden of proof and where it truly applies.

MileHigh

I agree, but only to a degree. I have no doubt, there are plenty of things discovered or invented which are of no practical use whatsoever. LOL

I also understand the conundrum that LENR presents with our current knowledge and theory on nuclear reactions. But as is the way of science, the best response thereafter, is always, "more information please!".

Cheers