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FIRST FREE ENERGY DEVICE REACHES MARKET IN OCTOBER -- The Game Changer is Here

Started by chessnyt, September 16, 2011, 06:57:24 PM

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The new poll  starting 2-4-2012:  LENR technology

a) will soon lead to the end of the fossil fuel era and become the new standard.
b) will compete with fossil fuels for decades to come eventually replacing them.
c) will not only phase out fossil fuels but will also lead to the trials of the current corrupt powers in charge.
d) will lead to all of the above.

chessnyt

@Rosemary:

Quote from: Rosemary Ainslie on November 17, 2011, 12:19:51 AM
Thanks very much for that link.  It explains a lot - but my concerns remain.  Do you think that Rossi wants any publicity at all - until his first unit is up and running and finally contracted?  I get the distinct impression that publicity is the least of his interests.  Which is a good thing.  God knows how Peswiki subscribers' interest in this is likely to plague him with distractions. 

I believe he wanted all the publicity he could get in the beginning, which he might have believed would lead to a long line of customers for his devices.  At this point, I do not believe he really cares about publicity one way or the other because the word is already getting around about his discovery without him spending any more of his own money towards it. 

I think his focus now is geared almost entirely on creating a business model and taking orders from additional customers.  He is simply setting up and running his business now.  He realizes that the only people he is absolutely going to have to convince and prove his technology to is paying customers.  Every time he demonstrates his technology to a potential customer (in a private setting or not) and sells a unit, he gets paid and that's what gives his company growth and momentum (as well enabling him to pay his bills).   

Quote from: Rosemary Ainslie on November 17, 2011, 12:19:51 AM
Also, bear in mind that even on this forum - there are the early detractors and murmurers.  I don't even have the appetite to give the link.  I am well aware of the efficacy of our trolls.  I've had the unhappy first hand experience of their skills.  It's toxic but effective.  The trick is to snarl the argument in allegations that will attack anything they can get hold of.  Right now it's an attack against his integrity which is hardly of any interest at all - in any context.  As is typical it is all managed with a liberal reference to unsubstantiated allegations delivered with simulated sense of moral outrage.  These people could earn themselves Oscars.

I agree.  Very well put.  Whenever we suspect troll activity on this thread, we could always refer them to reply #263, paragraph 9  ;D

Quote from: Rosemary Ainslie on November 17, 2011, 12:19:51 AM
It's a bumpy road ahead.  I see it so clearly.  But here's the good news and we need to keep focused on it.  There is an workable prototype - which has been demonstrated publicly.  And regardless of the evidence or not of any emissions - that's actually all that matters.  Regarding the existence or otherwise of emissions - this is not proof that the technology does not work.  Just that our academics will need to eat humble pie while the work out HOW it works.   Good heavens.  There are surely still some academics who feel shy when they flaunt their opinions irrespective of experimental evidence.  What has happened to the integrity of our scientists?  It's floundering.

I suspect that the so-called "laws" that are cemented into the heads of scientists and engineers while they are obtaining their degrees prohibits them from even attempting to think outside the box.  One reply that comes to mind was made by BEP from this site.  He once said, "As I sit this early morning, with my first cup of java, I can only compare your thoughts [he's replying to a skeptic] to one thing:  In the kitchen we have a squawking cock-a-til. The same song every morning - the same useless rant and repetition of the song yesterday and before. He sets in his cage, squawks, eats, defecates... Nothing will ever happen for him unless he gets out. I'm sure for him almost nothing exists outside of his cage.  Question what you've been taught. Question the obvious. You might find a way out of that cage someday." -- BEP


Best regards,

Chess

Rosemary Ainslie

Hello Chess,
I took the trouble to find that post.  Very well put - indeed.

Quote from: lwh on November 11, 2011, 05:24:00 PM

Another reason for the lack of input to the thread is that once the habitually, unreasonably skeptical among us are presented with unavoidable facts and test results, the only recourse is to either have a hissy-fit and engage in personal attacks, as if that will somehow discredit the technology, or disengage from the subject altogether, moving on to some other subject that can be used as a vehicle for expressing what just adds up to low self-esteem.

.....
Anyway, that's enough from me.  All I really wanted to say was, thanks for keeping us up to date, some of us are actually interested in these developments, but just don't have anything productive/constructive to add to the subject. 
   

Thanks Chess - for everything
Kindest regards,
Rosemary


chessnyt

Quote from: Groundloop on November 18, 2011, 09:45:11 AM
ECAT Home products will be available in 2013.
http://ecat.com/ecat-questions/when-will-the-ecat-be-available

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@Groundloop:

Great news just keeps pouring in.  Rossi's original estimated release date for the home unit was 2015 so this is definitely a pleasant surprise. 

At this same link you posted, it also gave the lead time for the 1 megawatt unit.  The estimated DELIVERY time is 3 months! 


Regards,

Chess

Rosemary Ainslie

Quote from: chessnyt on November 18, 2011, 11:12:01 PM

@Groundloop:

Great news just keeps pouring in.  Rossi's original estimated release date for the home unit was 2015 so this is definitely a pleasant surprise. 

At this same link you posted, it also gave the lead time for the 1 megawatt unit.  The estimated DELIVERY time is 3 months! 


Regards,

Chess

Hello Chess,

I've also got a small contribution.  Mainly thanks to a link from Groundloop's link.  I'm now a subscriber and listed myself as a potential investor.  lol.  I fell into the <$100 000.00.  Fortunately they don't specify how much less.   ;D

Here's that link.
http://ecat.com/inventor-andrea-rossi 

If it's already been referenced - apologies.  But it's a fascinating read - and at the conclusion - a 'must see' video.  Such impeccable impartiality.  And nice to see that Rossi's strong enough to tackle both sides of the argument as well as confront all the prejudice.  What a courageous man.

All the best to you and to everyone.  Life seems well worth living at the moment.

Rosemary

Not edited.  I'm just adding this.
Here, again is my blog update.  Apologies for this apparent 'self promotion' but the news is all good.
http://newlightondarkenergy.blogspot.com/2011/11/194-dark-energy-story-thats-still.html