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FIRST FREE ENERGY DEVICE REACHES MARKET IN OCTOBER -- The Game Changer is Here

Started by chessnyt, September 16, 2011, 06:57:24 PM

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The new poll  starting 2-4-2012:  LENR technology

a) will soon lead to the end of the fossil fuel era and become the new standard.
b) will compete with fossil fuels for decades to come eventually replacing them.
c) will not only phase out fossil fuels but will also lead to the trials of the current corrupt powers in charge.
d) will lead to all of the above.

Rosemary Ainslie

Quote from: Loner on December 17, 2011, 05:19:32 AM
Might this be important?   Direct Quote from the Paper....

Nevertheless we have an experimental evidence of a large energy
that can only arise from nuclear reactions between Nickel and Hydrogen, the
only two elements existing in our apparatus.

If "The only two elements" is a literal fact, I see not what the question is?  No Catalyst?

Sorry Rose, I go away now.

Hi Loner..

Why are you apologising?  And why are you going away? 

Anyway - yes indeed.  I agree.  The only catalyst is the applied heat to the core to initiate the reaction.  If there's anything that he's not mentioned then that will weaken and not strengthen his patent.  I would have thought.

What I can't stop thinking about is the number of elements that are transmuted from that reaction.  If you think about it - our classical assumptions are that these elements are somehow 'cooked' in exploding stars - super novas.   Needs enormous energy.  So.  I think these results are likely to confront that assumption.  It seems that we can transmute elements at very manageable energy levels.  My guess is that this is going to explode into a new science.  Fag the energy that can be accessed.  It's all those elements.  Maybe we'll be back to the search for the holy grail - turning mercury - something?  into gold?  That would be nice.

Take care Loner.  Your point is well taken.

Kindest regards,
Rosemary

bullsnbears1

Quote from: Loner on December 17, 2011, 05:19:32 AM
Might this be important?   Direct Quote from the Paper....

Nevertheless we have an experimental evidence of a large energy
that can only arise from nuclear reactions between Nickel and Hydrogen, the
only two elements existing in our apparatus.

If "The only two elements" is a literal fact, I see not what the question is?  No Catalyst?

Sorry Rose, I go away now.

Yes but could a catalyst not be used in the preparation of the nickel powder before it's insertion into the apparatus? I've always assumed that the nickel powder's physical attributes are key, and why when it overheats, it melts the nickel stopping the reaction.

But I would be the first to admit that this is certainly an uneducated guess.

Edit: Also, clearly the nickel doesn't wear out, nor is all of the nickel spent. It seems to me that whatever physical shape, attribute, or whatever property the nickel has from being prepared, is used up & must be "re-prepared", perhaps by a catalyst.

mflynn44


Magluvin

Nickle and hydrogen

Nickle metal hydride batteries.  These batteries really get hot when charging, or even discharging heavily.

"The active material for the negative electrode in the NiMH battery is actually hydrogen"

So, when charging, is the heat that is created, all wasted energy beyond the amount that the battery holds once fully charged? Or is there some heat for free?  ;]

If no freebe, then we are paying probably quite a bit more to fill the batteries due to a lot of heat creation.  And the same for output. If the batteries get really hot during use, that heat is not free either. If we add up the losses, we may only be getting in the area of 50 to 70% of what we took from the wall to charge, to the output device. Maybe less considering charger heat and losses.

So, it could be tested, to see if any of the heat in these batteries is free, no?

Just silly mumbling

Mags


Rosemary Ainslie

Quote from: Magluvin on December 17, 2011, 11:39:27 PM
Nickle and hydrogen

Nickle metal hydride batteries.  These batteries really get hot when charging, or even discharging heavily.

"The active material for the negative electrode in the NiMH battery is actually hydrogen"

So, when charging, is the heat that is created, all wasted energy beyond the amount that the battery holds once fully charged? Or is there some heat for free?  ;]

If no freebe, then we are paying probably quite a bit more to fill the batteries due to a lot of heat creation.  And the same for output. If the batteries get really hot during use, that heat is not free either. If we add up the losses, we may only be getting in the area of 50 to 70% of what we took from the wall to charge, to the output device. Maybe less considering charger heat and losses.

So, it could be tested, to see if any of the heat in these batteries is free, no?

Just silly mumbling

Mags

Hi Mags,

So nice to see you there.  And I think you're bang on here.  I've just been reading up about that NiMH number.  The M part of that commonly comprises a wide mix of materials that may also be the source of those trace elements in Rossi's 'mix'.  What's needed is to find out where he gets his material.  If not now, I suspect that in the past it may have been from the Greek company that are setting up in opposition to Rossi.  Can't remember their name and I'm too lazy to look it up.  But I think they were originally intended as the material suppliers as they had a handle on the sourcing of the nickel in Greece.  I recall that their boast was that Greece was to become the center of all things LENR precisely because of this availability.  They've also had a fallout with Rossi which means they may be prepared to 'tell all'.  Could be worth looking up.

But frankly I don't think that those trace elements matter.  I really do think that you only need that nickle hydride with the application of that electric current to generate heat.  I also remember Hope telling us that he spoke to a chemist who seemed to think that the materials were easily accessed.  I agree with Mflynn4 that it may need to come in a specific size.  10um?  Whatever that is and however one gets it to the required.  I'm sure you guys can sort it out.  And by the by - Rossi can justify his numbers with Nickel - 62.  But I'm not sure that this is the actual source of all that gain.  I'd put money on it that there's a strong reaction with just stable Nickel - what is it?  56? Something like that.

Also worrisome is how to get the cell properly enclosed.  I personally don't think there are ANY emissions - but that apparatus still needs to be shielded - in the very likely event that I'm absolutely wrong.  lol.  And then you need a continual supply of water which is not, usually available in most garages.  It's going to be an expensive exercise I imagine.  And way outside my own competence or budget.  But I will MOST CERTAINLY see if I can follow in your footsteps if those steps are clearly shown.  I want to learn much, much more about chemistry.

But it's an interesting point that our NiMH batteries may, indeed, be using a similar process when they're over charged.  I read up about them in Wiki and over charging is, apparently, a sure fire method of compromising that material. 

Anyway.  It's all very interesting.  I'm looking forward to what the new year will bring us.  Hopefully, sooner rather than later, that first buyer will own up and/or there are other buyers who are prepared to acknowledge their use of this technology.  That'll be when we'll know more about the whole process.  I hope.

Kindest regards,
Rosemary