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FIRST FREE ENERGY DEVICE REACHES MARKET IN OCTOBER -- The Game Changer is Here

Started by chessnyt, September 16, 2011, 06:57:24 PM

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The new poll  starting 2-4-2012:  LENR technology

a) will soon lead to the end of the fossil fuel era and become the new standard.
b) will compete with fossil fuels for decades to come eventually replacing them.
c) will not only phase out fossil fuels but will also lead to the trials of the current corrupt powers in charge.
d) will lead to all of the above.

neptune

@Chessynt. Thanks for the trouble you have gone to in order to give us this information .In the end we will all have to wait and see what happens . Personally , I believe Rossi is on the level . I am not a young man , but hope to live long enough to enjoy the low cost heat from an E-cat .

teslaalset

Quote from: jan.kolar on January 22, 2012, 02:29:49 PM
In his last interview Rossi mentioned issue of stability. Specifically he said that device is absolutely stable up to temperatures around 120 celsius degress. I speculate what would happen if some electric grid was turned off by blackout. There would be no energy to drive circulation pump to sufficiently cool the device. He only mentioned that there is no way to explode like atomic bomb because liquid nicked would stop the whole reaction.

Jan, I tend to disagree with you.
If Rossi's technology is real, this will just be the beginning of a new era.
Once LENR is understood, starting the heat production will be done much more efficient.
A small backup battery could in that case be sufficient.

B.t.w. my central gas heater is controlled by microcontrollers etc.
That unit is also powered by the grid.
No power from the grid, no heat by gas.

teslaalset

Quote from: a.king21 on January 23, 2012, 08:00:03 AM
John Michell has written a book on the e-cat. I know him personally. If he says it works - it works.

Just by writing down it works doesn't prove it.
The guy is just trying to already profit from the hype.

This is not a religion.

jan.kolar

Quote from: teslaalset on January 23, 2012, 01:17:06 PM
Jan, I tend to disagree with you.
If Rossi's technology is real, this will just be the beginning of a new era.
Once LENR is understood, starting the heat production will be done much more efficient.
A small backup battery could in that case be sufficient.

B.t.w. my central gas heater is controlled by microcontrollers etc.
That unit is also powered by the grid.
No power from the grid, no heat by gas.
I disagree with you. Its not the same situation as with gas heater, at least at contemporary level of knowledge. You are mixing to things that should be hold apart. Burning of gas is chemical reaction (oxydation), E-Cat is based on nuclear reaction which is something totally different. You cant regulate nuclear reaction at the same easiness as burning process. Rossi mentioned that there is some degree of flexibility, but not the same as regular heating systems. I think you need minimum heat power to keep nuclear processes running on (to have sufficiently high temperature to keep hydrogen in atomic state H1 as opposed to molecular state H2).

teslaalset

Quote from: jan.kolar on January 23, 2012, 03:30:35 PM
I disagree with you. Its not the same situation as with gas heater, at least at contemporary level of knowledge. You are mixing to things that should be hold apart. Burning of gas is chemical reaction (oxydation), E-Cat is based on nuclear reaction which is something totally different. You cant regulate nuclear reaction at the same easiness as burning process. Rossi mentioned that there is some degree of flexibility, but not the same as regular heating systems. I think you need minimum heat power to keep nuclear processes running on (to have sufficiently high temperature to keep hydrogen in atomic state H1 as opposed to molecular state H2).


Jan, didn't Rossi do a demo having a selfsustaining setup?
I recall from his interviews that he mentions only in the initial startup phase e-cats need electrical power to start the process.
Once started, the units keep themselves running as long as heat is distracted in a sufficient amounts.
Too much heat distracted and the process will turn off, too small amount of heat distracted and the nickel powder will melt and the process also shuts down.

Ultimately, power for the pump can be generated by thermo-electric components, e.g. peltier elements, that converts heat into electricity once the units are up and running.