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FIRST FREE ENERGY DEVICE REACHES MARKET IN OCTOBER -- The Game Changer is Here

Started by chessnyt, September 16, 2011, 06:57:24 PM

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The new poll  starting 2-4-2012:  LENR technology

a) will soon lead to the end of the fossil fuel era and become the new standard.
b) will compete with fossil fuels for decades to come eventually replacing them.
c) will not only phase out fossil fuels but will also lead to the trials of the current corrupt powers in charge.
d) will lead to all of the above.

teslaalset

Quote from: chessnyt on February 13, 2012, 01:03:07 AM
But Rossi was much smarter than they originally thought as he saw right through this transparent ploy.  This is why Rossi only verifies the 1 MW units with the actual customers and not the media or demanding outside scientists anymore.  He realizes that they will NEVER be satisfied no matter what he does because they are not genuinely looking for the answers.  They just want him to be so busy jumping through their hoops that he does not have time left over to further his enterprises and thus never puts out a product. 

Rossi also has a degree in psychology, so he doesn't follow the expected paths to introduce this breakthrough.
It's pretty rare that somebody has a degree in technology and psychology.
Another example: Mark Zuckerberg (degree in IT and psychology).

tinu

Quote from: Doctor No on February 10, 2012, 07:31:02 PM
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6-th, it is nothing of CNF, ordinary chemical reaction only.
...

Hi Doctor No,


I’m not sure I understand you correctly. Please be more specific.
Many thanks,

Tinu

Goat

Quote from: Goat on February 10, 2012, 11:15:38 AM
@teslaalset

I'm sorry to inform you that your calculations are all wrong as far as the ecat using electricity.  The electricity used by the ecat is only to get the reaction going inside the reactor and after that it is SELF SUSTAINING without the use of electricity.

No offence but please go back and read all you can about the ecat before posting such calculations. 

Regards,
Paul

@teslaalset

I'm sorry all to hell for my comments on your calculations, what can I say, after reading your reply post I went and further educated myself with the links you posted and I was totally wrong in my presumptuous remarks, once again please forgive me  :P

Regards,
Paul

Rosemary Ainslie

Quote from: chessnyt on February 13, 2012, 01:03:07 AM
@Rosemary:
It's an old strategy reintroduced for a second time.  I noticed this earlier in the thread and it was originally used on Andrea Rossi himself.  This is an old lawyer's trick where you make a demand from the opposing counsel to turn over an ungodly amount of data, evidence or specific records.  It's really a stall tactic usually employed in the discovery phase of a trial in which the side demanding the documentation has no actual interest in the documents requested.  They do this in order to bog down the opposing counsel and use their noncompliance to the request as valid grounds to postpone (or be granted a continuance) a trial. 

But Rossi was much smarter than they originally thought as he saw right through this transparent ploy.  This is why Rossi only verifies the 1 MW units with the actual customers and not the media or demanding outside scientists anymore.  He realizes that they will NEVER be satisfied no matter what he does because they are not genuinely looking for the answers.  They just want him to be so busy jumping through their hoops that he does not have time left over to further his enterprises and thus never puts out a product. 

My stance to this ingenious part of the crowd is for them to just purchase one of Rossi's units when they become publically available and test them for only 94 years.  Then stop the testing and get back to me.  I really am interested in seeing their results after 94 years of their own independent study of Rossi's work just to make sure.  Meanwhile, I'll just be using Rossi's E-Cats in my office and my residence with my sights set on using this technology to power a motor vehicle. I'll have the motor vehicle waiting for them to study upon completion of their original study.  They can take even longer to study the vehicle if they would prefer.


Best regards,

Chess


This is choice Chess.  Especially that last para.  I've finally found cause to laugh.

Kindest as always,
Rosie

teslaalset

Quote from: Goat on February 13, 2012, 10:08:44 PM
@teslaalset

I'm sorry all to hell for my comments on your calculations, what can I say, after reading your reply post I went and further educated myself with the links you posted and I was totally wrong in my presumptuous remarks, once again please forgive me  :P

Regards,
Paul

No problem Paul, it's free to exchange opinions here ;)
I expressed my view on 'self sustaining' operation also here: http://www.overunity.com/12008/lenr-roundup/msg312708/#new
It's just my view, people may disagree of course.

The point I am trying to make is that Rossi's numbers need to be interpreted carefully.
I am looking into Rossi's proove of COP by his calculations a bit more.

There are some weak points in the semi open demo's he performed in 2011 which I am trying to understand.
One thing that is still bugging me is the demo (Bologna on June 14, 2011) where Rossi shows steam production where he stated the water usages is 7 liter/hour, while the shown steam generation is only very mild.
If you calculate what the actual speed of steam flow should be in such case, with the diameter of the hose he used in mind, something is clearly not correct. In that demo the steam should come out of the hose with much more violance.
It's just one demo, I know, but there are no other demo results that we can study.

Hopefully, some more formal evaluations will be published.
Rossi is presently working with two universities to get this done.
In parallel Defkalion is having the Hyperion evaluatied more openly by several knowledgable institutes.
I guess we need to be patient for a few weeks;)