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FIRST FREE ENERGY DEVICE REACHES MARKET IN OCTOBER -- The Game Changer is Here

Started by chessnyt, September 16, 2011, 06:57:24 PM

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The new poll  starting 2-4-2012:  LENR technology

a) will soon lead to the end of the fossil fuel era and become the new standard.
b) will compete with fossil fuels for decades to come eventually replacing them.
c) will not only phase out fossil fuels but will also lead to the trials of the current corrupt powers in charge.
d) will lead to all of the above.

gravityblock

Quote from: chessnyt on February 18, 2012, 07:46:11 PM
Now you suggested starting a thread on building the reactors but later cancelled the idea when you found out there were threads already doing this.  So why not point people to the best thread so the builders among us can start experimenting and report back to the rest of us here?


Chess

You're 100% wrong in why I cancelled the idea.  I owe you no explanation in my decision.  All of the information required to successfully build a working LENR is contained in this thread.  Additional details can be found elsewhere.   It's up to you and everyone else to decide what you will do with this information.  You can ignore it, you can say it's wrong, you can say it's incomplete, or you can apply the information in your experiments.  The ball is in your court now.  What you decide to do is on you, and not me.  All comments, either for or against what I have presented will be ignored.  This is my last and final post in regards to LENR & SEC.

Take care,

Gravock
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

Poit

There is a lot of chit chat about Rossi and the E-Cat and everything inbetween.... All I am interested in is when the home version will be for sale (a date would be nice), how much exactly (including shipping to Australia)

We can all talk till the cows come home (not sure if anyone else uses this expression, might be Australian?)..... but who really cares? the real point is, when can I have one!!?!!

Rosemary Ainslie

Quote from: gravityblock on February 18, 2012, 07:55:23 PM
Here's a video showing the dual charges in action.  Notice there are two streams.  One stream is made of  negative charges (electrons) while the other stream is made of positive charges (positrons).  The dual charges generate the same current, since they are of opposite charges and moving in opposite directions.  In this video, the two streams appear to combine into one stream in some instances.  They actually remain separated from each other at an extremely small distance by the repulsive coulomb force.  There are both attractive and repulsive coulomb forces at play.  If both charges gain enough acceleration and momentum they will overcome the repulsive coulomb force, collide and annihilate each other while generating excess heat.

Gravock

Dear Gravock,

This is exactly the sort of nonsense that mitigates against these forums as a platform for teaching anything at all.  I'll reserve my opinion on those so called unification heroes of yours - now that I've had a chance to read them.  Because I really don't want to be pulled into another public argument - euphemistically referred to as a 'debate'.  But I will say this.  I was sincerely impressed with the argument proposed by Frank Zdidarsic.  However it's also inconclusive and partial.  But nice.

Here's the link
http://www.scribd.com/doc/25456609/Frank-Znidarsic-Control-of-Natural-Forces-leading-to-Cold-Fusion-and-Anti-Gravity

But really.  Are you proposing that we can easily generate positrons?  And are you then proposing that the bulb simply contains a 'mix' of electrons and positrons?  And that the flux then somehow organises itself that the two flux fields adjust to each other?  That they somehow comfortably flow past each other?  Are you aware of how impossibly difficult it is to even hold positrons in any stable condition at all?  They can barely be contained even when they're locked in an imposed magnetic field.  LOL.  If antimatter was that easily organised - we'd have been powering space shuttles with this from way back.  Antimatter is considerably less manageable than you seem to think.

I think that what the video is showing us is that flux has magnetic properties.  I've seen many such examples.  That example most certainly DOES NOT contain positrons. 

Gravock.  I am constantly in awe of young minds and high energy.  It's a heady mix.  And I'm inclined to forgive a great deal of excessive zeal - even when it's compounded with an equally excessive arrogance and an entire want of diplomacy.  But I assure you.  You cannot seriously be proposing that the video sample shown here has anything at all to do with positrons?  That's about as absurd as Poynty deciding that a battery can generate a negative current flow.  This isn't a simple error in math.  It's a profound departure from the standard model, and from fact. 

You need to rethink your argument if this represents its foundations.

Golly  :o

Regards,
Rosemary

EDITED.
Sorry guys.  I wrote Wilczek.  God knows why?  He's arguments are ridiculous.  But I like this one by Zdidarsic (spelling? something like that.) 
And for perfect clarity - here's the link that Gravock gave us.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrGtPKBXkVQ&feature=plcp&context=C3e6f0bbUDOEgsToPDskLDYRU-THhmlfe1RrBxFobx

Rosemary Ainslie

Quote from: Poit on February 19, 2012, 06:26:23 AM
There is a lot of chit chat about Rossi and the E-Cat and everything inbetween.... All I am interested in is when the home version will be for sale (a date would be nice), how much exactly (including shipping to Australia)

We can all talk till the cows come home (not sure if anyone else uses this expression, might be Australian?)..... but who really cares? the real point is, when can I have one!!?!!

Hi Poit.  I agree.  We all want to get our hands on a device.  But one CERTAIN way of getting this to the market is to ensure that it's existence is known in the first instance.  Because our conventional media channels are IGNORING this event with the kind of dedication that speaks to some kind of 'agenda' - conspiratorial or otherwise.  And then we need to watch our backs.  Because we don't also want to buy into another monopolistic stranglehold.  I think we've all learned to be relatively 'circumspect' when it comes to anyone at all claiming to protect the best interests of the buyers over the sellers.   And our best safeguard is to speak about this openly.  Better yet - on the internet.  And best of all on this kind of thread that Chess had the courage to initiate.  Whatever we talk about - related to this - is a good thing.  Because then - at least - the knowledge is OUT THERE.  Otherwise it would have been a relatively easy exercise for competing interests to have silenced this and shut Rossi down - on whatever grounds they chose.  That's what they managed with Fleishman and Pons.  And sure as hell the conventional media channels would have co-operated.  This is PRECISELY when the internet comes into its own.

Regards,
Rosemary

Rosemary Ainslie

Quote from: chessnyt on February 18, 2012, 07:46:11 PM

Now you suggested starting a thread on building the reactors but later cancelled the idea when you found out there were threads already doing this.  So why not point people to the best thread so the builders among us can start experimenting and report back to the rest of us here?

Chess

Hi Chess,

I must admit I'd quite like to see some links.  Since Gravock isn't likely to provide this - would you oblige us?

I had a shrewd idea you were doing your own thing here.  Great stuff. 

Kindest regards,
Rosie