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FIRST FREE ENERGY DEVICE REACHES MARKET IN OCTOBER -- The Game Changer is Here

Started by chessnyt, September 16, 2011, 06:57:24 PM

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The new poll  starting 2-4-2012:  LENR technology

a) will soon lead to the end of the fossil fuel era and become the new standard.
b) will compete with fossil fuels for decades to come eventually replacing them.
c) will not only phase out fossil fuels but will also lead to the trials of the current corrupt powers in charge.
d) will lead to all of the above.

Rosemary Ainslie

Quote from: chessnyt on March 24, 2012, 10:48:03 PM

Yes, the nitinol engines appear to be one splendid way to harness the heat produced by the home E-Cat (as only a 20 degree temperature differential is required) versions and convert this heat directly and efficiently into mechanical force (to propel an electric generator).  Yes, there are always losses during any energy conversion but the nitinol engines may prove to be the most efficient route for the E-Cat.

Chess

Chess,

Tell me again, why can't one simply use the 'steam' that the E-cat's going to provide - to drive any engine?  Surely we're not precluded from using that benefit to drive a steam generator? It only needs to ouput 220 volts at plus/minus 60 Hertz.   In fact, I can't think what's to stop us from applying that benefit to any uses at all - at the buyer's choosing. Is this right?  I know we discussed this.  I just can't remember the conclusion. 

I'm awfully glad to see how Rossi fielded that 'inquiry' into the toxicity of his E-cat.  Seems to have done the trick - because, indeed, he is NOT manufacturing anything...YET.  But it concerns me that this may yet happen again when he opens up for production and business.  What would he do then?  Because he's likely then to get the full force of an attack.  And I also see that he's going to establish his plants in America.  Perhaps the Government will rally.  Otherwise I suspect they'll lose the initiative of some valuable potential exports.  I do hope so.  I do hope that there's enough potential income there to justify protection - of some sort.

And it's a thorn in the side to think that he's co-operating with existing utility suppliers to simply supplement their nuclear technologies with cold fusion technologies.  I know it's probably in the interests of enabling a 'smooth transition'.  But I'd hate to see those suppliers muscle in on the game and maybe ensure that we're forever gridlocked.  Please God.  Then we'd all need to rally really quickly.  I've got the dreaded feeling that we'll all be able to buy ONE E-cat per household - and more will be taxed.  And then some ghastly legislation ensuring that inspectors can 'inspect' to ensure that there's no 'misapplication'  and on and on.  One's worst nightmare.  Big Brother growing ever bigger.

Anyway.  Our real hopes lie with the likes of you and others here who would be able to reverse engineer as required.  That way we - hopefully - wont even be dependent on buying that E-cat.  We can just make our own.  And that means - DON'T BY DEFKALION.  Their Hyperion is designed to 'self destruct' if you dare look inside.  What a cheek.

Kindest as ever
Rosemary

chessnyt

Quote from: Rosemary Ainslie on March 26, 2012, 03:15:05 AM
Chess,

Tell me again, why can't one simply use the 'steam' that the E-cat's going to provide - to drive any engine?  Surely we're not precluded from using that benefit to drive a steam generator? It only needs to ouput 220 volts at plus/minus 60 Hertz.   In fact, I can't think what's to stop us from applying that benefit to any uses at all - at the buyer's choosing. Is this right?  I know we discussed this.  I just can't remember the conclusion. 

There are a couple of issues with steam based electricity generation.  One is the temperature (which is actually lower in the home based units) and the other would be "wet" steam.  The latter will utterly ruin any steam turbine (as dry steam is needed to drive them).  The other will limit you, pretty much by default, to a piston type steam engine which requires lubrication and usually a water/oil separator system on the back end.

Also, the piston type steam engines are less efficient than the steam turbines are and they run at lower RPMs.  Will they work?  Sure, but you also need a boiler in order to build steam pressure which is VERY DANGEROUS to incorporate if you do not know what you are doing.  I've seen these things explode and take out reinforced concrete walls.  Also, they must be certified by the city which means you need a permit to even operate one legally.  Believe me, this is a good thing!

Quote from: Rosemary Ainslie on March 26, 2012, 03:15:05 AM
I'm awfully glad to see how Rossi fielded that 'inquiry' into the toxicity of his E-cat.  Seems to have done the trick - because, indeed, he is NOT manufacturing anything...YET.  But it concerns me that this may yet happen again when he opens up for production and business.  What would he do then?  Because he's likely then to get the full force of an attack.  And I also see that he's going to establish his plants in America.  Perhaps the Government will rally.  Otherwise I suspect they'll lose the initiative of some valuable potential exports.  I do hope so.  I do hope that there's enough potential income there to justify protection - of some sort.

Once he gets the U.L. approval, he's pretty much home free.  I'm sure he is waiting for this approval before operating here in the U.S.

Quote from: Rosemary Ainslie on March 26, 2012, 03:15:05 AM
And it's a thorn in the side to think that he's cooperating with existing utility suppliers to simply supplement their nuclear technologies with cold fusion technologies.  I know it's probably in the interests of enabling a 'smooth transition'.  But I'd hate to see those suppliers muscle in on the game and maybe ensure that we're forever gridlocked.  Please God.  Then we'd all need to rally really quickly.  I've got the dreaded feeling that we'll all be able to buy ONE E-cat per household - and more will be taxed.  And then some ghastly legislation ensuring that inspectors can 'inspect' to ensure that there's no 'misapplication'  and on and on.  One's worst nightmare.  Big Brother growing ever bigger.

Anyway.  Our real hopes lie with the likes of you and others here who would be able to reverse engineer as required.  That way we - hopefully - wont even be dependent on buying that E-cat.  We can just make our own.  And that means - DON'T BY DEFKALION.  Their Hyperion is designed to 'self destruct' if you dare look inside.  What a cheek.

If any or all of the aforementioned "Big Brother" predictions come to pass, I am absolutely sure that this whole technology will go underground just as alcohol production did during prohibition.  If MIT can do this with ease (and without Rossi's secret catalyst) in a classroom, then so can our gear heads and teach the rest of us how to do this in our garages.


Best Regards,

Chess

parisd

New to cold fusion. Does the overunity community have enough understanding of Rossy or other cold fusion device to replicate it in case the technology is blocked ? I am asking because i would be surprized this will replace oil or other current form of energy in the short to middle term, there are too many interest and cartels affected. It will be kept mute for an other 25 years or at least as long as oil brings hundred of billions to companies or countries and d uring those 25 years only renegates will generate cold fusion in their garage for their home supply. Just my opinion


Also. Are we 100 per cent sure this is real and that all people or companies promising cold fusion are not genious con artists ,

happyfunball

Quote from: parisd on March 27, 2012, 11:40:00 AMAre we 100 per cent sure this is real and that all people or companies promising cold fusion are not genious con artists ,

Rossi is obviously a con man and has behaved like one from the beginning. Incomplete worthless tests, bs claims of anonymous buyers, bs claims of factory production. The rose colored glasses crew has been reduced to random quotes by NASA scientists and others about the viability of LENR. No working device anyone can put their hands on. 100% scam.

parisd

Quote from: happyfunball on March 28, 2012, 12:52:50 PM
Rossi is obviously a con man and has behaved like one from the beginning. Incomplete worthless tests, bs claims of anonymous buyers, bs claims of factory production. The rose colored glasses crew has been reduced to random quotes by NASA scientists and others about the viability of LENR. No working device anyone can put their hands on. 100% scam.


And replications done in universities, also BS vehiculated through the net or real ?