FIRST FREE ENERGY DEVICE REACHES MARKET IN OCTOBER -- The Game Changer is Here

[TinselKoala]

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Hmmm.... methinks censorship is active. I entered the text from your text file as a link... and the forum changed it to the above. Isn't that interesting.

[lumen]

I think it's interesting how people read things the way they want to hear them. Like the COP>6 claimed by Rossi. Some read the same results as I read but came up with the idea that the COP is always 6.
The fact is, this statement indicates that this would be an average most people would get because of the way they will be using the unit. Connected to some hot water storage container that holds about 50 gallons like a typical hot water tank or house boiler. Once the water is up to temperature, the unit turns off and will take another hour of power to start again.
The most efficient use would be to connect it to a swimming pool where the unit could never produce enough energy to heat such a huge mass of water, then after the first hour to start the unit, it will run without further input for SIX MONTHS. This would increase the COP to something much higher than 6.
Just an example!

[gravityblock]

Hi all,

Here is a image of .....

"The Electromagnetic Spectrum"
Westinghouse Research Laboratories

Chart - MB 1957    28" high x 41" long
Westinghouse Electrical Corporation
Printing Division    Trafford, Pa
Copyright 1961  by
Westinghouse Electric Corporation


FTC

Hi all,

Here is a image of .....

"The Electromagnetic Spectrum"
Westinghouse Research Laboratories

Chart - MB 1957    28" high x 41" long
Westinghouse Electrical Corporation
Printing Division    Trafford, Pa
Copyright 1961  by
Westinghouse Electric Corporation


FTC

This spectrum is of the electromagnetic force.  Now, extend the concept of the electromagnetic spectrum to include the weak nuclear force.  The electromagnetic force is infinite in range, however the weak nuclear force is a very strong force over a tiny range interacting with the heavier W & Z bosons.  This is what mainstream science is missing.  What I'm saying easily explains why these gamma rays are incapable of penetrating a thin lead shield, however your ideas are based around a science which says these gamma rays should easily penetrate a thin layer of lead.  What does the experimental evidence support?  It supports that these gamma rays do not have the ability to penetrate through a thin layer of lead, which is opposite to what is expected in the currently accepted theory.  It's called Low Level Nuclear Reactions for a reason.  It's occurring at much lower energy levels than what was predicted possible by mainstream physics.

Gravock

[MileHigh]

Gravityblock:

This spectrum is of the electromagnetic force.  Now, extend the concept of the electromagnetic spectrum to include the weak nuclear force.  The electromagnetic force is infinite in range, however the weak nuclear force is a very strong force over a tiny range interacting with the heavier W & Z bosons.  This is what mainstream science is missing.  What I'm saying easily explains why these gamma rays are incapable of penetrating a thin lead shield, however your ideas are based around a science which says these gamma rays should easily penetrate a thin layer of lead.  What does the experimental evidence support?  It supports that these gamma rays do not have the ability to penetrate through a thin layer of lead, which is opposite to what is expected in the currently accepted theory.  It's called Low Level Nuclear Reactions for a reason.  It's occurring at much lower energy levels than what was predicted possible by mainstream physics.

The problem is that these are your personal theories and I am going to assume that you don't have anything to back them up.  You cannot extend the concept of electromagnetic radiation to the weak nuclear force.  From what I understand the strong force and the weak force can be compared to gravitational force, but only acting at very short distances, and they are not comparable to electromagnetic radiation.  There is no "wavelength" or "intensity" or propagation through a medium associated with the weak force to make the weak force analogous to EM radiation.  Your comparison is not valid in my opinion.

You talk about gamma rays and their ability or inability to penetrate a lead shield.  However, you are not talking about the intensity of the gamma rays, their wavelength, and the thickness of the lead shield.  Without discussing these parameters you can't make an argument one way or the other.

It's called Low Level Nuclear Reactions for a reason.  It's occurring at much lower energy levels than what was predicted possible by mainstream physics.

You are implying that everything is at a lower level.  In my opinion you are missing the point.  "Low level" refers to the amount of energy required to get one nucleus to smash into another nucleus with enough force to create fusion.  It has nothing to do the resulting reaction after the fusion takes place.  Seriously, anybody reading this that thought "everything is different" is making a big mistake.

You can assume for example that the rate that fusion is allegedly occurring in LENR is much lower a rate than the attempts at "hot" fusion would normally run at, but after fusion happens, the process is 100% the same.

So the "special" thing that is allegedly happening is that LENR can somehow create fusion, firing one nucleus at another nucleus with enough energy to create fusion, by somehow bouncing hydrogen atoms around inside a crystal lattice of nickel atoms.  But to repeat, once fusion happens it's an identical reaction to hot fusion.

If somebody disagrees with me I would like to know why they disagree with me and just saying "it's different" is not going to convince me.  Also, I am no expert here, just a lay person with a science background.

MileHigh

[parisd]

P.S.:  You and others are dreaming in technicolour if you think this device will be "non-complicated."   If this thing is real and it malfunctions while you are standing next to it it could emit enough gamma radiation to kill you in two hours.  It's bloody nuclear reactor, think about that.  Some of you make it sound like they are building a cheese cutter.

I agree with Milehigh, cannot have a "reactor" at home so easely, the reactor will need to be licensed even if 100% safe and produce no wastes, this means Rossi team will have to provide tons of safety analyses in all situations, fire, flooding, earthquake, simple malfunctions, loss of control, loss of water inventory,...  the nuclear regulatory body of the countries will allow or not installation on his ground, in addition the home owner i.e the operator of the "reactor" will possibly need a license to operate this thing. Nothing simple, would have been better if Rossi had discovered a chemical reaction. In addition each country which does not yet have a nuclear regulatory body will probably need one before to license the new reactor on their ground. I still beleive not feasable in 16 months.