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FIRST FREE ENERGY DEVICE REACHES MARKET IN OCTOBER -- The Game Changer is Here

Started by chessnyt, September 16, 2011, 06:57:24 PM

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The new poll  starting 2-4-2012:  LENR technology

a) will soon lead to the end of the fossil fuel era and become the new standard.
b) will compete with fossil fuels for decades to come eventually replacing them.
c) will not only phase out fossil fuels but will also lead to the trials of the current corrupt powers in charge.
d) will lead to all of the above.

Rosemary Ainslie

Quote from: MileHigh on April 15, 2012, 08:04:07 PM
Anybody that thinks that there can be no possible danger in having a fusion nuclear reactor in their basement that runs at low temperatures (no instant halt to the reaction like there is with hot fusion) and outputs thousands of watts worth of deadly gamma radiation is living in a fantasy land.
No question.  If we were talking about the fission process of the average nuclear reactor that our monopolists are excessively fond of building.  The E-cat is NOT in the same bracket.  Thank you God.

Rosemary

Rosemary Ainslie

Quote from: MileHigh on April 15, 2012, 08:08:14 PM
Rosemary:

You are not a technical person so anything that you state about this stuff has no credibility.  Believe me, the "guys" are aware of this also.

MileHigh

What guys?  You, TK and some others?  I would be rather insulted if you/they afforded me any credibility at all.

Rosie Pose.

MileHigh

This is from the Wikipedia entry on the Energy Catalyzer:

QuoteTheoretical astrophysicist Ethan Siegel and nuclear physicist Peter Thieberger argue that the claims for the E-Cat are incompatible with the fundamentals of nuclear physics.[24] In particular, the Coulomb barrier for the claimed fusion reaction is so high that it is unsurpassable anywhere in the known universe, including the interior of stars. The reaction also would create gamma radiation that would penetrate the few inches of shielding apparently provided by the E-Cat, leading to acute radiation syndrome in persons involved in the demonstrations.[24] Given numerous other scientific inconsistencies â€" such as the ratio of isotopes in the supposed copper "fusion product" being identical to that in natural copper[25] â€" the authors argue that it is now time "for the e-Cat's proponents to provide the provable, testable, reproducible science that can answer these straightforward physics objections."[24]

That Coulomb barrier is what I referred to a few days ago where I said that the hydrogen nucleus and the nickel nucleus have to heading towards each other with unbelievably high speed to overcome the electrostatic repulsion. 

Note what they state:  "In particular, the Coulomb barrier for the claimed fusion reaction is so high that it is unsurpassable anywhere in the known universe, including the interior of stars."

Myself as a lay person, and many other nuclear scientists, don't believe that there is some "other way" to work around this fundamental problem.  If the whole thing "blows up" and two years from now Rossi and Defkalion are disgraced names that are no better than Mylow, it will be because of the Coulomb barrier.

This one just for Rosie Posie:  "The reaction also would create gamma radiation that would penetrate the few inches of shielding apparently provided by the E-Cat, leading to acute radiation syndrome in persons involved in the demonstrations."

So it seems to me we are left with an unexplainable mess.  So it should be pretty exciting to see what happens in the future.  It's not nearly a neat and clean a "slam-dunk" that some of the posters around here would like you to believe.

It's the old cliche, it will either be a bunch of disgraced con artists or the Dawn of the Age of Aquarius.

MileHigh

Rosemary Ainslie

from wiki
Theoretical astrophysicist Ethan Siegel and nuclear physicist Peter Thieberger argue that the claims for the E-Cat are incompatible with the fundamentals of nuclear physics.[24] In particular, the Coulomb barrier for the claimed fusion reaction is so high that it is unsurpassable anywhere in the known universe, including the interior of stars. The reaction also would create gamma radiation that would penetrate the few inches of shielding apparently provided by the E-Cat, leading to acute radiation syndrome in persons involved in the demonstrations.[24] Given numerous other scientific inconsistencies â€" such as the ratio of isotopes in the supposed copper "fusion product" being identical to that in natural copper[25] â€" the authors argue that it is now time "for the e-Cat's proponents to provide the provable, testable, reproducible science that can answer these straightforward physics objections."[24]

It is clear that Messrs Siegel and Thieberger's arguments depend on there  being any need at all for the cold fusion effect to surpass the Coulomb barrier.  Clearly Nature sees no such dependency and nor is She about to to comply with their arguments.  Which can only mean that the Coulomb barrier is most certainly surpassable or that Siegel and Thieberger are wrong.
 
Quote from: MileHigh on April 15, 2012, 08:33:52 PMThat Coulomb barrier is what I referred to a few days ago where I said that the hydrogen nucleus and the nickel nucleus have to heading towards each other with unbelievably high speed to overcome the electrostatic repulsion. 
I'm not sure that velocity comes into it.  The energy catalyst used here is something that we've still to be told - and this process is initiated with nothing more complicated than the electromagnetic interaction applied in an electric current.

Quote from: MileHigh on April 15, 2012, 08:33:52 PMNote what they state:  "In particular, the Coulomb barrier for the claimed fusion reaction is so high that it is unsurpassable anywhere in the known universe, including the interior of stars."
IF this is what they're claiming then they are wrong.  Because in the process of creating our manifold elements in the periodic table - then some energy must have been available from the known universe - or we would not have that variety and number of atoms.

Quote from: MileHigh on April 15, 2012, 08:33:52 PMMyself as a lay person, and many other nuclear scientists, don't believe that there is some "other way" to work around this fundamental problem.  If the whole thing "blows up" and two years from now Rossi and Defkalion are disgraced names that are no better than Mylow, it will be because of the Coulomb barrier.
Actually - if either party are disgraced then it won't be so much do to the Coulomb barrier but will, more probably be thanks to the hard work of those such as you and TK who both go to inordinate lengths to deny evidence and disgrace claimants. 

Quote from: MileHigh on April 15, 2012, 08:33:52 PMThis one just for Rosie Posie:  "The reaction also would create gamma radiation that would penetrate the few inches of shielding apparently provided by the E-Cat, leading to acute radiation syndrome in persons involved in the demonstrations."

So it seems to me we are left with an unexplainable mess.  So it should be pretty exciting to see what happens in the future.  It's not nearly a neat and clean a "slam-dunk" that some of the posters around here would like you to believe.

It's the old cliche, it will either be a bunch of disgraced con artists or the Dawn of the Age of Aquarius.
I think we're looking at the Age of Aquarius in full flood.  It's dawn was some time back in the 60's. 

Regards again
Rosie Pose

chessnyt

Quote from: firlight on April 15, 2012, 03:27:37 PM

Hi chess some more good news.
Regards Dave :D
http://www.e-catworld.com/

@firlight:

Yes, this is very good news and it lays out Rossi's business and production plans very nicely.

Personally, I predict the E-Cat home unit will make it to market first followed by Defkalion and then finally, Brillouin Energy.  There is no chance of a monopoly by ANY of the three (and others in the wings) competitors with the exception of Rossi's company which will be the sole provider of LENR products to the public until the others enter the market shortly thereafter.

Thanks for the update, Dave.


Cheers,

Chess