FIRST FREE ENERGY DEVICE REACHES MARKET IN OCTOBER -- The Game Changer is Here

[chessnyt]

@Everyone:
Some additional bad news to report for the scam propagandists here.  Rossi states today that he does not want to become a government funded parasite.  Again he reafirms that he will not be excepting government or public funding as he states "My opinion is that a technology that works can find funding from the market, while a technology that does not work is a waste of public money if it is funded."

Here's the full quotation:

Andrea Rossi
May 26th, 2012 at 5:53 AM

Dear Piero:
We do not need any funding from political institutions, and we want not to have any public funding. My opinion is that a technology that works can find funding from the market, while a technology that does not work is a waste of public money if it is funded. All I need from the political environment is to be allowed to work in peace. We are able to make by ourselves the money necessary to our development: the People votes with the money for the products that are useful.

In any case I want to thank publicly the Sen. Scilipoti, whom I do not know personally, because he repeatedly tried to help us, and this is important for me to understand that part of the Sovereign People wants to help us working. This is important in order to decide where to work now and in future. I want not money to make work: I want to work to make the money necessary to develope this technology making real, useful and safe products, not theoretical chatters. This is all I ask.

Warm Regards,
A.R.


Regards,

Chess

[MileHigh]

Chess:

I want to work to make the money necessary to develope this technology making real, useful and safe products

Rossi is basically stating that he is taking private investment money to advance his project.  I seem to recall you vehemently denying this.

Here is my request:  Instead of quotes from Rossi that are non-technical and mostly anecdotal, can you find a spec sheet for any flavour of E-Cat?  It can be a preliminary spec sheet.

For example, how about some details on the 600C steam?  How much are they producing?  Is it with an industrial E-Cat prototype?  What are the specs?  Have they crunched the numbers to indicate how much electrical power it can output?  Have they selected a turbine and a generator?  To produce 10 kW of electricity I believe they need to produce about 20 kW of superheated steam.  You also have to get rid of 10 kW of excess heat.

I realize that this data might not be available right now, but it seems to me it should be available soon.

MileHigh

[gravityblock]

Chess:

Rossi is basically stating that he is taking private investment money to advance his project.  I seem to recall you vehemently denying this.

Here is my request:  Instead of quotes from Rossi that are non-technical and mostly anecdotal, can you find a spec sheet for any flavour of E-Cat?  It can be a preliminary spec sheet.
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I realize that this data might not be available right now, but it seems to me it should be available soon.

MileHigh

Hyperion Specs Sheet, November 2011

Gravock

[MileHigh]

Gravityblock:

Thanks for the link.  That makes the Defkalion system look much more tangible.  You can see how it heats up oil and it's up to the customer to run the oil through a heat exchanger and then do what they want with the heat.  Like keep chickens warm in chicken factories.

My impression is that's a multi-reactor paper design right now, which is not an issue assuming that they have a single reactor working.

I wonder if Rossi has something similar.

Looking forward to the July demo!

MileHigh

[chessnyt]

Chess:

Rossi is basically stating that he is taking private investment money to advance his project.  I seem to recall you vehemently denying this.

@MileHigh:

Once again, your recollections are misleading and dis-informative at best.  To set the record straight, below is the direct quote from Rossi that I posted in this thread back on February 9, 2012, 02:10:29 AM (Reply #597 on Page 40):

Sterling Allen: Totally different question. I get inquiries from time to time about investment. I know there are people out there interested in investing in your company. What ranges of dollar amounts will you consider for investment? Anything above "X" dollars, for example.

Andrea Rossi: You know the issue is of a philosophic kind, because we are not yet... Our company before we will have millions of E-Cat units in operation, our company will be a sort of a warship. And as I usually say, I want not to play football with the bones of the others. So we cannot, we want not to accept money from people that have saved money working, and they want to invest their money to give, how can I say, safety to their family. We want not that. We do not want the savings of families in our enterprise now. Our enterprise is still risky, for many reasons. So we can accept investments from big organizations, that can invest a small amount... Some hedge funds of their finances, and can risk it, in a way that if something goes wrong, no body is going to cry. And no body is going to be damaged, really. Do you understand?

While we're on the subject of setting the record straight, let us clear up a little more disinformation, shall we?

1MW is a negligible amount of power for an electric utility so you are not making any sense.

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One megawatt is a drop in the bucket for an electrical utility.

Regarding size limitations of E-Cat power plants I posted the following (Reply #925 on April 7, 2012, 06:24:48 AM):

Oilprice.com: It almost seems as if you’re downplaying the role that LENR could play in providing cheap abundant energy for the world, by only developing relatively small units. Do you not believe that your LENR machine could truly solve a lot of the world’s energy problems? Do you plan to build much larger units of 10s-100s of megawatts, or is that not possible?

Andrea Rossi: We are already developing 1 MW plants, and it will be easy to link these plants together to make larger power plants. Due to the compact scale, and efficient energy production process, an E-Cat power plant will be much smaller than its fossil fuel or nuclear equivalent.

Oilprice.com: You mentioned linking 1MW plants together to make larger power plants. How would this work? What would the cost be?

Andrea Rossi: The 1MW units can be assembled at a reduced size of 10ft x 8ft x 8ft, and can then be stacked in series or parallel to produce the necessary power. It will cost 1,000 $/KW.


Setting the record straight again

Chess